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French Students murdered in New Cross

How could one person take on two other people and tie them up?

depends how fucking hard/crazed they were.

we don't know they were both in at the same time and overpowered or if they came home seperately and someone was waiting.
or if they used chloroform or something.

i just hope the police sort this one out asap. it's nasty.
 
Yeah why not take half the sentence out of context.
I didn't. I addressed exactly the point your post made.

I did use the well known term 'surely' as in, man this can't be true! Surely.
No, you didn't.

Original post said:
This has to be a group attack surely, one person couldn't have done that.


If you meant to you need to address your use of syntax and punctuation and consider the use of exclamation marks and / or :eek: smilies.
 
I'm thinking gangland killing disguised as robbery but the victims seem so clean-living that it seems a silly notion.

But still, I'm thinking drug debt or something along those lines - otherwise the ferocity of the attack just doesn't seem to make any sense.
 
The level/type of violence would be extremely unusual for either of those explanations.

Yeah. Soon as I heard they were brilliant minds, were only there for a short research stint and had a stolen laptop I thought it might have been an industrial espionage job but that falls down on the same count.
 
The level/type of violence would be extremely unusual for either of those explanations.
Someone at their hometown university - one of their professors, I think - expressed the opinion that the level of violence used was intended to send a message to someone. All very vague I know, but the shocking nature of the crime lends itself to all kinds of frenzied speculation. Maybe it's just as it appears - a simple robbery gone wrong. They were, after all, the victims of burglary just a week before. Maybe the robbers returned, found them home unexpectedly, they resisted, and everything went downhill from there.

It's pointless to speculate but the not knowing is maddening. It just seems to defy all logical explanation.
 
Maybe the robbers returned, found them home unexpectedly, they resisted, and everything went downhill from there.
As I said, the level and type of violence is not associated with that explanation. Anything is possible but it would be a very unusual incident if it were.
 
To be honest, I think that's more because her English is very ropey....

Maybe....
"I will never stop thinking about you for a second. I had 10 months of a happiness I had never experienced until then.

"Today you are gone. I will try to be as good as you always wanted.

"I will give all the required information to the investigation, my dear, so you can be avenged."

Maybe it's a translation....even so it struck me as a strange thing to say, a strange translation even...
 
As I said, the level and type of violence is not associated with that explanation. Anything is possible but it would be a very unusual incident if it were.
So not a robbery. Not a gangland attack. A serial killer then?

That it's a "very unusual incident" is the one thing we can be sure of.

What kind of incidents, in your experience, leave 250 stab wounds in two bodies?
 
What kind of incidents, in your experience, leave 250 stab wounds in two bodies?
As I said earlier:

That level of apparently frenzied violence (and unnecessary violence) is, in my experience, usually connected with sexual motivation (which seems not to be likely in this case, though there is no way anyone can be sure on the basis of what is in the public domain) or mental illness (where it is far more usual for an attack to be in a public place rather than in someone's home).

Whatever it turns out to be, it will be a very unusual example of it. Many / most murders pretty much tell you from the outset what has happened and / or why. I think this is one of the relatively few which does not seem to fit any common "type" (unless, as may well be the case, there are significant pieces of information which we do not know in the public domain). The profilers will no doubt be having a field day trying to work it out!
 
Maybe....

Maybe it's a translation....even so it struck me as a strange thing to say, a strange translation even...
I must say it was my first thought...in fact my actual thought was "She's put what she wants to say through a ropey online translator"
 
Maybe they offended one of the local gangsters by looking at them the wrong way or something. Sounds a bit flippant but (dis) respect and all that bollocks means a lot to some people.
 
I can see how a gang of 5 people can rob a train load, due to fear, but tying someone up takes both hands and concentration, I don't see how one person could do that and stop the other person from taking some sort of action.
 
Maybe both victims weren't there to begin with ...maybe he was lying in wait having nicked keys from previous burglary and the victims didn't arrive together...maybe he had a gun...maybe he got one victim to tie up the other....threats & fear
 
I can see how a gang of 5 people can rob a train load, due to fear, but tying someone up takes both hands and concentration, I don't see how one person could do that and stop the other person from taking some sort of action.

I've met a few people capable of doing that easily. Usually ex-special forces.
 
Well, I think you can, Maggot. I think the point being made is threat and fear.....
Precisely.

You are taking a totally simplistic and naive view of the situation. There are several possible scenarios which could explain how one person achieved this (not least of which is stabbing one, incapacitating them, and then taking on the other).
 
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