Freedom

[derf]

I bet he's perfectly happy to sit down (or indeed stand attention to ) to a DVD of so-called "hot lesbo action", as well.

Don't be silly. Who needs DVDs in asia.

Islam is quite nice you know. No wandering round avoiding pissed up bastards on a Saturday night and no unwanted little bastards roaming the streets breaking into cars for a start.
Sorry to say that there are some bad Muslims who do naughty things but most are good and the UK would do well to take on some of Islam's ideals.
Start with slowing down or calling it a day with the booze and then stop shagging about like dogs on heat. That will take care of many of the UK's social problems and a couple of it's social diseases as well.

 

[emanymton]

That's an extremist position in itself, though ...

Good observation!

 

[RedRumsBum]

Don't be silly. Who needs DVDs in asia.

Islam is quite nice you know. No wandering round avoiding pissed up bastards on a Saturday night and no unwanted little bastards roaming the streets breaking into cars for a start.
Sorry to say that there are some bad Muslims who do naughty things but most are good and the UK would do well to take on some of Islam's ideals.
Start with slowing down or calling it a day with the booze and then stop shagging about like dogs on heat. That will take care of many of the UK's social problems and a couple of it's social diseases as well.

We had our own version of that. It's called Victorian values.

Not quite the same, is it, when it's coming from white a tory....

 

[derf]

We had our own version of that. It's called Victorian values.

Not quite the same, is it, when it's coming from white a tory....

Tory - after a fashion but not true blue maggie type.

How do you know if I'm white or not ?

I come from the UK but live in Indonesia. I may be of any racial extraction you care to name but if you really want to know my family were french jews.
Before that I have no idea.
I'll bet the branches of the family that are still jewish would really be pissed off if they knew I converted to Islam.

 

[xenon]

Well speaking as one of the right thinking, silent majority, I'd just like to say.

bibble, bibble, soggy pooh poohs.

 

[frogwoman]

that's nice dear. what do you want, a biscuit?

 

[frogwoman]

Which ones?

Nothing like a bit of extreme S and M fun with convicted thieves ... as long as they're not homosexual, of course, then they should just be hanged ...

 

[frogwoman]

I haven't much liked most of the pakistanis I have met but have met a few good friends from Pakistan. I love the food from the region and even if I don't always like the people and the way they do business I have found them polite for the most part.

How nice of you, i'm sure they'd appreciate that if you told them!

 

[free spirit]

Extremist politics of any type are a a waste of time and only other cause problems to any poor sods who's country they get control over. Far left or right are about the same and history as proven so many times.
For the communists or extreme right types that may read this, Look at the history of any government of your political type, work out they all fucked up big style, get a fucking life and work towards building a good life that includes all and not just your mates.

ah, but who's deciding what ideas fall under the category of 'extremist politics'?

to much of the world neoliberalist capitalism is 'extremist politics' of the worst kind, yet here it's mainstream orthodoxy.

in cuba communism's probably not seen as particularly extremist etc.

and as for working towards building a good life that includes all and not just your mates... that sounds dangerously like pinko commie talk to me. Actually htinking about it, how extremist was the US constitution when it was written?

anyway...

Now the question is am I allowed to express a political opinion that may prove unpopular with others. I don't hate anyone or want anyone hurt but an I allowed to say that I don't like some things without death threats or whatever?

goldfish - i demand the right to speak goldfish please oh, and cardboard. thanks.

 

[free spirit]

hold up, i just worked it out, you're one of them anarchist types aren't you...

 

[derf]

hold up, i just worked it out, you're one of them anarchist types aren't you...

Busted !

I also like to wear women's underwear on saturday nights.

What sort of biscuit Froggy baby ? As long as it's not 'cake' I'm game.

Ps. I don't like to drink tea but I don't mind other people having a sip or two as long as it's in private.

 

[frogwoman]

a custard cream

 

[derf]

and as for working towards building a good life that includes all and not just your mates... that sounds dangerously like pinko commie talk to me. Actually htinking about it, how extremist was the US constitution when it was written?

Try the magna carta for a laugh. Think of the other Kings shitting themselves when they heard about that bit of paper.

Commie ? Me ? Like fuck.

 

[derf]

a custard cream

Spiffing. I'll be on the next flight to london. We don't have them here but I'll only come if you say you won't chop my nuts off when you meet me.

 

[frogwoman]

why would i do that?

 

[derf]

PS time to pick up Mrs Derf. She's visiting a sick relitive and has just called me to fetch her. She will do the nuts off bit if I don't jump on My little honda (good title for a song I wonder) and get my arse up there rapid.

(I'm under the thumb)

 

[derf]

why would i do that?

"cos I'm an evil git.

 

[derf]

key in hand and ready to rev up the bike. Sweet dreams all.

 

[dessiato]

PS time to pick up Mrs Derf. She's visiting a sick relitive and has just called me to fetch her. She will do the nuts off bit if I don't jump on My little honda (good title for a song I wonder) and get my arse up there rapid.

(I'm under the thumb)

Jan & Dean did it I think.

Why do you want people to jump off the Humber Bridge? If they all did it would cause chaos in the shipping lane. Couldn't they jump off other bridges too? Or do you have something against Humberside?

 

[derf]

Jan & Dean did it I think.

Why do you want people to jump off the Humber Bridge? If they all did it would cause chaos in the shipping lane. Couldn't they jump off other bridges too? Or do you have something against Humberside?

Not real people. Only druggies.

Just think of all the crime that would stop and any reasonable sized boat/ship/Russian nuke sub would never feel the bump even if they landed right on top of it.

I think it was jan and dean. Must check.

 

[Roadkill]

So, derf, do you feel as if anyone has impinged upon your freedom to post such a load of ol' bollocks?

 

[derf]

So, derf, do you feel as if anyone has impinged upon your freedom to post such a load of ol' bollocks?

No my bollocks are intact but i think that frogwoman's custard cream was a trick intended to get me to meet her down a dark alley so she could chop them off .

 

[frogwoman]

 

[derf]

PS. Being nice is nice but being a bastard is much more fun.

 

[fela fan]

You have the freedom to say that to british people while in indonesia.

I somehow suspect that in many contexts if you said that in britain itself you'd probably end up in hospital, or at the very least be subject to a lot of verbal vitriol.

There is limited freedom in britain, yet many feel they have tonnes of it. It's an interesting irony really. I don't know how you feel in indonesia, but i live with a lot more freedom in thailand than i ever could in britain. And i say the same for the thais themselves. In britain far too much state interference in one's life, and when it comes to discussion of taboo or delicate topics, it gets shut down pretty quick, if it is even allowed to get started.

 

[ViolentPanda]

You have the freedom to say that to british people while in indonesia.

I somehow suspect that in many contexts if you said that in britain itself you'd probably end up in hospital, or at the very least be subject to a lot of verbal vitriol.

There is limited freedom in britain, yet many feel they have tonnes of it. It's an interesting irony really. I don't know how you feel in indonesia, but i live with a lot more freedom in thailand than i ever could in britain. And i say the same for the thais themselves. In britain far too much state interference in one's life, and when it comes to discussion of taboo or delicate topics, it gets shut down pretty quick, if it is even allowed to get started.

Good old expat fela, sitting in South-east Asia pontificating about a country he's been out of touch with for over a decade.

 

[Y_I_Otter]

The thought of homosexual sex acts makes me puke but having said that if someone wants to do it (not with me) I think it's up to them and nothing to do with me.

Imagine our collective relief.

I wouldn't dream of speaking for all homos everywhere, but believe me when I say that we manage to go whole hours at a time without imagining straight people fucking.

I'm perfectly content to live alongside my heterosexual brothers and sisters, as long as they don't insist on flaunting it-- you know: holding hands in public, snogging, getting married, enacting discriminatory legislation against us, that kind of thing.

 

[fela fan]

Good old expat fela, sitting in South-east Asia pontificating about a country he's been out of touch with for over a decade.

It's nearly two decades i've been away, but not out of touch with. That's where you've got it wrong mate.

 

[Fruitloop]

Imagine our collective relief.

I wouldn't dream of speaking for all homos everywhere, but believe me when I say that we manage to go whole hours at a time without imagining straight people fucking.

I'm perfectly content to live alongside my heterosexual brothers and sisters, as long as they don't insist on flaunting it-- you know: holding hands in public, snogging, getting married, enacting discriminatory legislation against us, that kind of thing.

^ Good stuff

 

[derf]

You have the freedom to say that to british people while in indonesia.

I somehow suspect that in many contexts if you said that in britain itself you'd probably end up in hospital, or at the very least be subject to a lot of verbal vitriol.

Fair comment. It strikes me that here in Indonesia there is very little I can't say. No one gets up their arses about things they do in the UK and any subject short of direct insults is fine. Having said that people here tend to be very polite and insults to anyone are rare.
There is a movement towards lack of freedom of speech in the UK and it's not good.

Otter -

I wouldn't dream of speaking for all homos everywhere, but believe me when I say that we manage to go whole hours at a time without imagining straight people fucking.

That's fine but I only think about gay sex when I've eaten bad food and need to get it out smart style.
Good post. I enjoyed reading it.