FORT HOOD SHOOTINGS: 12 Dead, 31 Injured On Texas Military Base

[Ralph Masters]

7 dead so far

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/05/fort-hood-shootings-7-dea_n_347366.html

could it be a terrorist attack?

They report that one person is in custody and two people are still at large. Reports indicate three shooters are involved.

 

[Ralph Masters]

It started at a graduation ceremony

 

[david dissadent]

could it be a terrorist attack?

Could be alot of things, from anti government right wing militia to a weird suicide pact. Far to early for anything other than guessing.

I seem to recall a Vietnam vet doing some tower shooting in the sixties, so a traumatised vet is not out of the question.

The two shooters were wearing military uniform and one was believed to have been armed with a high-powered sniper rifle, NBC News network reported.

high powered rifle could have been anything but these days the high powered snipers rifles are .50 cals. They dont leave many wounded so its more likely to be a civilian sniping rifle or a M1.

 

[Ralph Masters]

at least seven people are dead and as many as 20 are wounded,

http://www.king5.com/news/national/Multiple-deaths-and-injuries-in-Texas-shootings-69308842.html

 

[agricola]

high powered rifle could have been anything but these days the high powered snipers rifles are .50 cals. They dont leave many wounded so its more likely to be a civilian sniping rifle or a M1.

As you say, reporting in the states is so bad any rifle can find itself labelled a "sniper rifle" when this type of thing happens. It could easily be some Pylealike with an M4.

 

[david dissadent]

The Army says seven people were killed and 20 wounded in a pair of shootings at the Fort Hood Army base in Texas. An Army spokesman at the Pentagon says the shootings began about 1:30 p.m. Thursday at a personnel and medical processing center at Fort Hood.

The spokesman, Lieutenant Colonel Nathan Banks, says two shooters were apparently involved. There is no word yet on who they were, nor on identities of the dead.

Banks says the second incident took place at a theater on the sprawling base.

He says it is too soon to tell whether there is any link to battle stress or repeated deployments. The Army is suffering a record high suicide rate and other signs of stress from fighting two wars.

AP hints it may have been two seperate attacks. (obviously co-ordinated)
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihGepAkECGoDagETVBMpPb3w7Y3gD9BPJO100

 

[Dan U]

Speaking on CNN, lieutenant general Russel Honore, a former commander general at the Fort Hood compound, said he had been told that two men, armed with M16 rifles, carried out the attack.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/05/fort-hood-shooting-texas

 

[Pickman's model]

higher score than the fucking taliban

 

[soulman]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8345713.stm

 

[Ralph Masters]

higher score than the fucking taliban

we're not sure yet whether it was the taliban, or al qaeda .........

 

[paulhackett]

12 dead, 31 wounded, one shooter killed, 2 in custody.. everyone involved soldiers

e2a: 1 civilian policeman killed

as per lt gen in charge of fort hood on sky just now

 

[Ralph Masters]

The number of dead keeps going up 9 now
http://www.emailwire.com/release/29418-Fort-Hood-TX-Shooting-9-Killed-over-30-Wounded.html

 

[Ralph Masters]

12 dead, 31 wounded, one shooter killed, 2 in custody.. everyone involved soldiers

maybe the extra three were the gun people?

 

[Pickman's model]

the taliban must be getting the (afghan equivalent of beer) in tonight

 

[Pickman's model]

maybe the extra three were the gun people?

no cos they've nicked one of them

 

[Ralph Masters]

the taliban must be getting the (afghan equivalent of beer) in tonight

and making the most of their poppies, our poppies aren't that good, nor are our rockets

 

[Ralph Masters]

no cos they've nicked one of them

maybe they had to kill him/her, the details are sketchy

especially here

 

[david dissadent]

Well they had time to get out at least 43 aimed shots. Probibly more. The only armed people on the base would have likely been MPs and the watch on the gates and fence. So I guess that is where they had the time for the shooting from (the time it would have taken for the platoon on guard duty to get to the scene). I would think it most likely they smuggled the ammo into the base as that sort of thing is usualy under a good deal of security (to reduce suicides).

An M16 is not a snipers rifle by any stretch of the imagenation but then again you would not need one at those ranges.

 

[grogwilton]

the taliban must be getting the (afghan equivalent of beer) in tonight

That'll be smack according to a lot of reporst on the afghan police i've read.

 

[paulhackett]

2 handguns with one gunman who was killed (plus two suspects who did not fire?)

 

[Ralph Masters]

2 handguns with one gunman who was killed (plus two suspects who did not fire?)

what were they suspected of?

 

[Pickman's model]

maybe they had to kill him/her, the details are sketchy

especially here

especially where?

 

[Ralph Masters]

especially where?

here in norbury

 

[paulhackett]

what were they suspected of?

he didn't say as they're still investigating, but glibly, of 'being suspicious'.. should be across all 10 o'clock news editions right now..

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

I wonder how many people the US have killed in Afghanistan and Pakistan today, I think NATO did for quite a few with a missile. Doesnt war just suck?

 

[david dissadent]

2 handguns with one gunman who was killed (plus two suspects who did not fire?)

Probibly froze, it is very very hard to shoot someone, espeicaly cold like that. Would have been much easier for the responders (guards or whoever) to shoot as there psychology would have been much more keyed up to kill in defence.

 

[soulman]

If this is painted as a terrorist attack on the US mainland then just like last time it's pointless trying to talk about the hundreds of thousands of people who have died on this planet as a result of the US empire.

If it is, I'd suggest the youngsters on here move somewhere safe where they won't be drafted in to die for the greed of the older people.

 

[Ralph Masters]

If this is painted as a terrorist attack on the US mainland then just like last time it's pointless trying to talk about the hundreds of thousands of people who have died on this planet as a result of the US empire.

If it is, I'd suggest the youngsters on here move somewhere safe where they won't be drafted in to die for the greed of the older people.

Cameron would probably put Hague in Charge of draft

 

[Pickman's model]

Cameron would probably put Hague in Charge of draft

which would be a mistake with so many unemployed barmen in the country, any of whom could handle draft better than hague, not to mention having a greater facility at changing barrels.

 

[Pickman's model]

apparently a major hassan malik one of the assailants at the base