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Former BNP Candidate On Explosive Charge

NFB 7 actually, rather than 6
Bugger. Sorry, Larry.

I can assure you that if there is a Lecomber link to this case (over & above him having signed Cottage's councillor candidate nomination papers as then BNP Group Development Officer) then NFB will get to the bottom of it...
Now THAT is interesting.
 
a lone muslim nutter if he can plug into the whole jihadist thing can go to pakistan and meet some serious people who can point him on the way to taking some of us with him on a one way trip to paradise:(
fortunalty the white right wing nutter is on his own
 
likesfish said:
fortunalty the white right wing nutter is on his own
eh? there are fanatical far-right organisations, and white supremacist ones, all over the planet, many of them the sort of underground ones which have - at least - terroristic undertones and/or connections. witness the groupings associated with messrs copeland and mcveigh
 
likesfish said:
a lone muslim nutter if he can plug into the whole jihadist thing can go to pakistan and meet some serious people who can point him on the way to taking some of us with him on a one way trip to paradise:(
fortunalty the white right wing nutter is on his own


more likely to get help from the state then or the army then ala northern ireland uvf/ruc/army collusion.
 
"let him off" heh

:D <-- Damn, I laughed. Such a bad joke too. :)

Hang on a minute. Lecomber doesn't live in Colne surely? I thought he was down South somewhere. It was my understanding that those ten signatures all had to be from voters in the relevant ward. :confused:
 
JohnC said:
Hang on a minute. Lecomber doesn't live in Colne surely? I thought he was down South somewhere. It was my understanding that those ten signatures all had to be from voters in the relevant ward. :confused:

As I understand it, although candidates still need their papers signed by voters in the ward/constituency, to stand as approved candidates of a particular party, somebody nationally (or perhaps regionally for larger parties) needs to confirm they are a party member. This job was performed by Lecomber until January 2006. Having just checked internal documents, the time-scale means Lecomber wouldn't, therefore, have been in post to send out the authorisation forms for candidates which they then gave/give to election agents. Unless Cottage had stood previously, which I almost certainly don't think he had, but will check.
 
Not found Cottage as a candidate earlier from (limited) papers to hand--but have been reminded of the claim in court that the two began stock-piling materials in January 2006: bang in the middle of the Lecomber plot time-frame. Fancy that.............
 
am posting an excerpt fron the BNP report on the Burnley By Election yesterday- which they failed to win but in which they still polled 27.4% in despite the Cottage affair. ...

......., would however probably not have helped them if it hadn't been for the shockingly unlucky (?) timing of the Robert Cottage 'bomb' trial.

Needless to say, no-one in the Establishment media was in the least bit interested in the fact that Cottage was a Conservative party activist for more than twenty years before switching to the BNP for one council election, then drifting away from us when our local team decided that he was becoming dangerously eccentric.

Nor did they mention the fact that his wife - who alerted the police - was also a staunch BNP activist. Nor (except in the small-print on the BBC website) was there reported the sad truth that the sum total of the supposedly massive haul of explosives that Cottage and his dentist 'accomplice' had 'stockpiled' was a gallon of hydrogen peroxide - a perfectly legal chemical used by dentists to whiten teeth.

This media onslaught clearly roused anti-BNP voters to a frenzy, and produced the wave of tactical voting which saw the LibDems take the seat comfortably. As our campaign workers agreed at the count, the wave of smear leaflets may actually have helped to get our voters out by making them angry at the attempt to bully them into changing their loyalties, but the media exploitation of the folly of Cottage clearly did mobilise the LibDem vote.
 
Larry O'Hara said:
As I understand it, although candidates still need their papers signed by voters in the ward/constituency, to stand as approved candidates of a particular party, somebody nationally (or perhaps regionally for larger parties) needs to confirm they are a party member. This job was performed by Lecomber until January 2006. Having just checked internal documents, the time-scale means Lecomber wouldn't, therefore, have been in post to send out the authorisation forms for candidates which they then gave/give to election agents. Unless Cottage had stood previously, which I almost certainly don't think he had, but will check.

Confirm Lecomber was the BNP Nominating Officer until Jan 2006- a formal position required of political parties by the Electoral Commission whose job it is to conform that people standing for the BNP are doing so with their authorisation (otherwise you could get people claiming to be the, say, Tory candidate for X ward when they are not).
 
JimPage said:
Will see how this plays out at the Burnley and Calderdale by elections over the next few weeks and whether this publicity reduces their vote.

Whatever- the wider question is whether this is a change of tactics and strategy by the BNP- or this is simply a couple of isolated nutzi sadcases?

I don't think it will make any difference really.

With what's been going on in Calderdale over the last month, the BNP are bound to pick up votes.
 
Groucho said:
There is enough circumstancial evidence to lead us to speculate at least that core elements of the BNP contemplated a move towards terrorism in the event of Griffin being sent down. This chap was a candidate in May not some anonymous member, and the Lecomber (deputy leader, Griffin's main man) stuff where he allegedly urged a BNP supporting gangster to assassinate the Home Secretary if Griffin was sent down. Many a front page re the Muslim terrorist threat has been based on far flimsier speculative/made up assumptions.


Based on the BNP results last May- why would they return to terror as a tactic? As to Cotttage being a prominenet member- I havent heard of him being involved in anything outside of their Pendle Branch- and was only1 of 360 odd canddiates last May. He wasnt an office holder at local level- and just seems to have been an ordinary member standing for election.
 
Dissident Junk said:
I don't think it will make any difference really.

With what's been going on in Calderdale over the last month, the BNP are bound to pick up votes.

Disagree- for the local circumstances in Mixenden- where one of the 2 BNP councilors in the ward was sentanced a month or two ago for Benefit Fraud and got 200 hours community service.

I would however not seeing this having much effect outside of Calderdale though
 
there's lots of right wing nutters out there true and a vast number of them have guns and violent fantasy's
What they don't do is put there violent fantasy's into action fortunatly.
 
Worrying development?

There are a couple of points here.

(1) First is that maybe the BNP are turning away from the electoral path towards a more violent direction.

(2) The second is the idea that it is not so much the BNP membership but more the fringe people and hangers-on who are doing this.

I find there is a kind of general expectation amongst racist people that there will be a race war of the sort Cottage and Jackson appear to believe in. It's probably a mirror image of the war in Iraq, projected on to the streets of Burnley and Nelson etc.

So how far away from the mainstream of BNP type people in East Lancashire are these two?
 
(1) First is that maybe the BNP are turning away from the electoral path towards a more violent direction.

With respect Steve, I don't think even the BNP would be that stupid. They're in a situation now where the government and media are doing and saying all the right things to help them along their chosen electoral route. If anything, the party is butting up against the hardcore in the ranks (and elsewhere) simply because of this. If Griffin's gang have held it along the electoral route this far, why would they suddenly choose to switch back to the bad old days? Doesn't seem logical to me.
 
I think you could make a good living selling combat knives replica guns and survivalist stuff to right wing nuts its part of the make up of the extreme right:(
the few communists I met would be happy with an ak47 :D
 
JimPage said:
am posting an excerpt fron the BNP report on the Burnley By Election yesterday- which they failed to win but in which they still polled 27.4% in despite the Cottage affair. ...

......., would however probably not have helped them if it hadn't been for the shockingly unlucky (?) timing of the Robert Cottage 'bomb' trial.

Needless to say, no-one in the Establishment media was in the least bit interested in the fact that Cottage was a Conservative party activist for more than twenty years before switching to the BNP for one council election, then drifting away from us when our local team decided that he was becoming dangerously eccentric.
...

Apparently he stood in three elections in Pendle in 2004, 2005 and 2006, according to a posting on another board dealing with local government election results:

Observers of the BNP may like the actual results in the elections contested by Mr Robert Cottage who is on trial at present in Manchester for conspiracy to cause explosions (having pleaded guilty to possession of explosive substances).

4th May 2006, Pendle Borough Council.
Vivary Bridge Ward (2 seats)

Liberal Democrats: 690, 599
BNP: Robert Cottage 403, 352
Labour: 248, 230
Conservative: 206, 157
2 LD holds


May 2005, Lancashire County Council
Pendle West electoral division
Conservative: 3,489 votes
Liberal Democrat: 1,722
Labour: 1,591
BNP: Robert Cottage 588
Con hold

May 2004, Pendle Borough Council
Vivary Bridge Ward
Labour: 582
Liberal Democrat: 488
BNP: Robert Cottage 402
Conservative: 263
Labour hold.

Vivary Bridge is a Colne ward and Cottage lives in the ward. The Pendle West division is some distance away on the Burnley side of Nelson.

Tony Greaves (declaring an interest as the Liberal Democrat agent at each of these elections).

http://www.vote-2007.co.uk/index.php?topic=431.msg17177#msg17177
 
Now THAT is useful information Fisher_Gate. The bullshit from the BNP and its supporters seems to be trying to spread the impression that he just skirted around the party - almost accidentally getting selected to stand for council.

The story is slowly unravelling...
 
BNP lying eh? Well, I never, who'd have guessed...!;)


The BNP know that ultimately they can only achieve their goal through mass violence and intimidation. The 'respectable' image can only ever take them so far. Mass deprtations, ending mixed relationships, cleansing the country of the disabled, ridding the media of all but white Brits, clamping down on the unions etc all will involve violence. With the BNP and all Fascists, behind the suited mask of the racist poltician skulks the thug with the boot and the bomb.
 
Groucho said:
BNP lying eh? Well, I never, who'd have guessed...!;)


The BNP know that ultimately they can only achieve their goal through mass violence and intimidation. The 'respectable' image can only ever take them so far. Mass deprtations, ending mixed relationships, cleansing the country of the disabled, ridding the media of all but white Brits, clamping down on the unions etc all will involve violence. With the BNP and all Fascists, behind the suited mask of the racist poltician skulks the thug with the boot and the bomb.

Yeah and the deluded fools who talk about free speech for the cunts should take note.
 
Come on, it's not as though they could ever achieve anything beyond Copeland style tactics which only served to unify the communities they were supposed to destroy.

Funny how white terrorism isn't even slightly sensationalised, yet a few arrests in Brum and the media is screaming panic.

If it ever did come down to a race war I'd love to be able to blow nazi's heads off for my country... Where do I sign?
 
it won't theres less than 5000 of them paid up members maybe at best another
think the sealed knot have a better chance of taking over the country at least they have guns :rolleyes:
 
jury failed to convict them- and they will now be re-tried- hopefully just before the may elections which will hopefully devastate BNP support even further
 
should have charged them with poession of stuff rather than conspriarcy as I don't think they had any plans to use the stuff until racial civil war broke out :rolleyes:
rather than trying to help the coming race war to start ala copeland:(
 
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