For Serious Capitalists

[butchersapron]

Don't have time to do your homework for you. Seems you haven't read Leviathan, or perhaps you've just googled/Wiki'd it like you usually seem to?

"And a nod to Hobbes."

Social contract theory which becomes game theory when we remove the historical context and the muddy waters of a monarch. Try Wolfson as well. But then again - they don't do that for GCSE, do they?

Ok, you can't explain beyond a mere mention of contract theory (long taken apart by any serious political scientists as a handy ideological construct) instead simply saying that you don't think i've read Leviathan. A most comprehensive answer.

Leviathan wasn't just a defence of monarchism btw, it was a defence of authoritarian govt full stop. Both it and De Cive being edited to make sure that Cromwell understood this point clear as day. Take the monarchism away and you still have a contract theory designed to produce an authoritarian state. That's the whole point. I do believe that you missed it.

 

[lights.out.london]

Nah. But thanks for trying to contribute.

e2a -

(long taken apart by any serious political scientists as a handy ideological construct) .

I had to include that, as you must have got your usual grown-up to help you with the big words.

Made me laugh. Thanks.

 

[butchersapron]

Marvellous

 

[Blagsta]

The orginal poster rather than the Original post. This very afternoon it aksed you



..and this was the post that you were replying to.

I'd still like to know how you intend to integrate anarcho-communism of Faure with with the authoritarian state of Hobbes. Becasue on first glance it doesn't look like a goer.

You can't see any contradictionsd between those two positions?

Not to mention the liberalism of Nozick!

 

[butchersapron]

There's a a brief thread on Hobbes in the philosophy forum you may be interested in btw LOL. You may pick up some tips.

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=253950

 

[lights.out.london]

You boys like your labels and boxes!

BA - you can borrow my copy of Leviathan, if you fancy reading it. As long as you let me have it back and you don't read it in the bath.

 

[Blagsta]

From what I can gather, lightsout is a free market capitalist bod, labouring under the delusion that it's got something to do with anarchism.

 

[lights.out.london]

There's a a brief thread on Hobbes in the philosophy forum you may be interested in btw LOL. You may pick up some tips.

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=253950

Unlikely. It reads like a dull conversation from undergrad Political Philosophy with an especially dull lecturer. I like the pictures, though.

 

[lights.out.london]

From what I can gather, lightsout is a free market capitalist bod, labouring under the delusion that it's got something to do with anarchism.

You gather wrong, baby.

And if I were a FMC, I'd have people labouring for me. Boom. Tish.

 

[Blagsta]

You gather wrong, baby.

And if I were a FMC, I'd have people labouring for me. Boom. Tish.

In that case, I find it very hard to work out what your views are. You claim to be an anarchist (or at least you give that impression), yet you're into someone like Nozick, who is a classic extreme Liberal. I don't get it.

 

[butchersapron]

From what I can gather, lightsout is a free market capitalist bod, labouring under the delusion that it's got something to do with anarchism.

With very good close reading and comprehension skills.

 

[lights.out.london]

In that case, I find it very hard to work out what your views are. You claim to be an anarchist (or at least you give that impression), yet you're into someone like Nozick, who is a classic extreme Liberal. I don't get it.

It's about taking ideas to form a whole. I don't believe anyone mentioned in this thread, including Rand, offers a one-size fits all solution or alternative to the world as is.

I like some of Nozick's ideas on interpersonal functions and responsibilities.

I can read well enought to know Butcher's writes shite, mostly.

e2a =- and if you read Nozick on games and probability, and read Wolfson's ANKS, you'll maybe see where I'm going with this and my NOD to Hobbes.

 

[Blagsta]

But your ideas don't appear to form a whole. They appear confused and contradictory.

Butcher's is actually very erudite, if a little cryptic sometimes.

 

[lights.out.london]

Ah. Maybe I've irked Buthchers ire on other threads.

 

[Sir_Ian_Blair]

Is he a philosopher?

Not in the way the word is commonly understood.

 

[butchersapron]

Yet he's still your hero.