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footage of the start of the Poll Tax riot, 1990

there was a fair bit of "fear and panic" on the police side as well as the O.B got run down whitehall, got run outside SA House etc etc - I remember seeing a squad of about twenty non robo cops shitting themselves as they were backed into a hastily and conveniently opened side door to (White Apartheid ) South africa house - I dont buy into the idea of demonstrators simply as victims of brutality on that day - it was an angry, militant crowd, the state needed to see this militancy crushed or else their beloved leader and her flagship was going down, a large, very determined minority section of the crowd went toe to toe with the OB for the first two hours after it kicked off outside whitehall, which gave the wider demonstration the confidence to stand it's ground and take it to the OB for the rest of the day and night - that militancy, that willingness to stand and fight for what was right, helped end the Poll Tax and Thatcher's reign .


Very well said:):cool:
 
I was at Downing Street helping to kick it off at the beginning. It was an unusual day.

You were with Thatcher? Cos, as far as I'm concerned, that cunt kicked it off!:D

Which one were you? Geoffrey Archer, Keith Joseph, Hesseltine, Geoffrey Howe...got it! You're Bernard Ingham, blunt Yorkshire man, superciliously sporting a couple of ferrets.:D
 
Great day-a little hairy at times though. Not as scary as the BNP demo in Welling that ended in rioting-I feared for me life that day. Don't think I've seen the police so out of control.
 
I don't think she was badly hurt.

There was a bloke on the news footage shown looting a shop, who was the image of my then boyfriend. His mum took some convincing that it wasn't actually him. :D
 
I used to have a vid on old hard drive used to play it when feeling a bit blue. Cops were surrounded they had nabbed someone but the crowd wanted the person free...all I remember was the frightend coppers yelling...'Back Off, Back Off'...they let the person go in the end.....and the crowd backed off.

Remember following the Srangeways riots as well.
 
Cops were surrounded they had nabbed someone but the crowd wanted the person free...all I remember was the frightend coppers yelling...'Back Off, Back Off'...they let the person go in the end.....and the crowd backed off.
Ah, good old peaceful protesting ... :rolleyes:
 
Peaceful protests are rarely effective and are often very dull. However our political history is littered with reforms enacted after the police "got a good hiding".:)
I would suggest that there is a difference between protest which has to move beyond the peaceful to make it's point and protest being used as an excuse to deliberately seek to maim and kill police officers and others (I'm thinking of Keith Blakelock; the BTP officers attacked with a scaffolding pole in their car during the Poll Tax riots; people killed in burned out buildings in Brixton and elsewhere, etc.)
 
I would suggest that there is a difference between protest which has to move beyond the peaceful to make it's point and protest being used as an excuse to deliberately seek to maim and kill police officers and others (I'm thinking of Keith Blakelock; the BTP officers attacked with a scaffolding pole in their car during the Poll Tax riots; people killed in burned out buildings in Brixton and elsewhere, etc.)

Lets not forget that the only people to have killed on demonstrations is the police in the last 40 years (probably even longer). The Police killed Blair Peach and Kevin Gately.
 
Great videos.

I remember the trouble starting on the way to Trafalger Square when a group of 10-15 coppers got isolated down a sidestreet. They were totally surrounded and backed up against a building. They started getting pelted with bottles and made a break for it...

The crowd surged forward and chased them down to within 100 yards of Downing St...

But waiting there were vans and loads of riot cops, the crowd slowed, the cops moved towards us...everyone stopped....they charged...

...and we fled. :(

What a fantastic day :D

What a bunch of brave people you all were, chasing ten coppers and then getting ran when they got a few to many for your liking.
The vast majority of working class people there were the police, whom I am sure are hated by the mainly middle class professional demonstrators.

After this great victory, remind me again, who won the next election and stayed in power?
 
'Mainly middle class professional demonstraters'? Those who actually benefited from the poll tax you mean? Does that sound very likely? Or is it more lilkely that those hloding up banners or placards saying things like they couldn't afford to pay the poll tax on a pension or other fixed income were actually telling the truth? And even represented many others who were unable to make it that day?

This real labour coming through here isn't it? Tell were you there sonny?
 
What a bunch of brave people you all were, chasing ten coppers and then getting ran when they got a few to many for your liking.
The vast majority of working class people there were the police, whom I am sure are hated by the mainly middle class professional demonstrators.

After this great victory, remind me again, who won the next election and stayed in power?

lol - totally clueless post of the month award goes to this clown, deffo
 
Look at the police back then, in their bobby suits with just batons for defence while a full scale riot goes on behind them :D, now they carry big fuck off guns doing a silly patrol. :rolleyes:
 
Look at the police back then, in their bobby suits with just batons for defence while a full scale riot goes on behind them :D, now they carry big fuck off guns doing a silly patrol. :rolleyes:

At least they could run then, unencumbered by all that kit and fat guts they so adore these days.
 
After this great victory, remind me again, who won the next election and stayed in power?

The anti-poll tax campaign succeeded in its aims, i.e. it got rid of the poll tax by making it unworkable. And it helped Thatcher on her way out of No. 10.

Labour tossers did their best to undermine the anti-poll tax campaign when it began in Scotland, but fortunately they failed, otherwise we'd probably still be stuck with it today.

You best shut up about people winning elections, it won't be your lot winning the next one, that's for sure.
 
What a bunch of brave people you all were, chasing ten coppers and then getting ran when they got a few to many for your liking.
The vast majority of working class people there were the police, whom I am sure are hated by the mainly middle class professional demonstrators.

After this great victory, remind me again, who won the next election and stayed in power?

Ooh, I've never been accused of being a professional demonstrator!!

Strictly an amateur, me.. an amateur who almost shit herself when the police horses charged the crowd in Trafalgar Square..

And then again, when I saw a police van reversing at speed into a crowd of people... distinctly remember running into a shop (might even have been McD's) shouting for them to call an ambulance..

I don't claim to hate the police, and having worked with them, don't think ACAB's.. but they can be somewhat heavy handed when it comes to demonstrations, and they were definitely heavyhanded on this occasion.
 
'Twas a good day had by all, especially for those guys on top of the scaffolding/building'





Actually some of the joists they were throwing missed their 'targets' by a mile and hit the protesters with one poor soul suffering brain damage.

apart from that I was near TC!
 
ah yes, the argument that anyone demonstrating/expressing an anti-establishment point of view must be middle class.

handy indicator that the person making the point is an idiot
 
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