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toggle said:
Which is fine if people listen to her when she says that, and fine if she dosen't get given bad information like sausages are just meat, by an idiot.

Agreed.
 
Thank you :) Adults are generally good if they have any sympathy/empathy and will go out of their way to be helpful. If they dont- so think OOH spoilt brat they treat her like a precocious piece of shit
 
well maybe he knew these kids and knew they weren't allergic and knew they were lying cos he'd seen their mums give them their broccoli sandwiches at the school gates in the morning and had seen them stick their tongues out and screww up their faces and go "aww mum that's long!!" so he knew it was just cos they didn't like it not that they were allergic :cool:
 
LilMissHissyFit said:
Thank you :) Adults are generally good if they have any sympathy/empathy and will go out of their way to be helpful. If they dont- so think OOH spoilt brat they treat her like a precocious piece of shit

No, they will think that if the child clearly doesn't have a clue what being allergic is, they just use that word to get out of eating a tomato or whatever when they are round at a friends house or something. Which is what I said many posts ago before you flew off the bloody handle. Apt username you've got isn't it.
 
:rolleyes: I dont think I did fly off the handle, go back and see how your post was phrased. Maybe kids do lie. Ive not experienced that.
I said thank you for agreeing to what toggle said. Unfortunately the 'you arent for real' is a reaction she experiences often and I think it does come from people thinking Oh you cant be allergic to that etc etc and telling her shes making a fuss or whatever becuase they dont believe her when she says I cant eat that, it makes me ill.
Why should any adult need any further proof about what being allergic is?? YThats what i dont understand about the stance you are taking- that if they dont explain they are a liar.... which is what could be reached using your reasoning if my daughter or someone suffering ger condition would have to do if an adult questioned them. They often dont even bother doing that, just assume shes making a fuss

A child shouldnt have to explain further and its sad that kids make things like that up and that leads to adults who think they know better( and usually dont know anything about allergies) making the same assumptions you did. Sure someone people lie but some people lie about just about everything under the sun. :rolleyes: doesnt make genuine people liars does it?? :confused:
 
Onket said:
No, they will think that if the child clearly doesn't have a clue what being allergic is, they just use that word to get out of eating a tomato or whatever when they are round at a friends house or something.

So fucking what.

Is it really the place of a non parent to be forcing the kid to eat something they don't like?
 
toggle said:
So fucking what.

Is it really the place of a non parent to be forcing the kid to eat something they don't like?

Forcing?

Fucking hell, you too?
 
LilMissHissyFit said:
:rolleyes: I dont think I did fly off the handle, go back and see how your post was phrased. Maybe kids do lie. Ive not experienced that.
I said thank you for agreeing to what toggle said. Unfortunately the 'you arent for real' is a reaction she experiences often and I think it does come from people thinking Oh you cant be allergic to that etc etc and telling her shes making a fuss or whatever becuase they dont believe her when she says I cant eat that, it makes me ill.
Why should any adult need any further proof about what being allergic is?? YThats what i dont understand about the stance you are taking- that if they dont explain they are a liar.... which is what could be reached using your reasoning if my daughter or someone suffering ger condition would have to do if an adult questioned them. They often dont even bother doing that, just assume shes making a fuss

A child shouldnt have to explain further and its sad that kids make things like that up and that leads to adults who think they know better( and usually dont know anything about allergies) making the same assumptions you did. Sure someone people lie but some people lie about just about everything under the sun. :rolleyes: doesnt make genuine people liars does it?? :confused:


It is sad that you get stupid people telling your daughter she can eat things that she can't. But that's not what I said.
 
toggle said:
excuse me?

:confused:

Missing the point of what I am saying & then flying of the handle.

I didn't come on here to be slated for my experiences & making a lighthearted comment about them, thanks.
 
No you said you didnt believe them unless you got some sort of convincing explaination- Ive said its sad she should be disbelieved unless she gives one... which is more common than people actually coming out and telling her she can eat something she cant
All I;d said initially was it makes it hard for people with genuine allergies when they are questioned... you said Does it?? And Ive explained. yes it does, more than you'd think having people think she should have to give an explaination( of an acutely embarrassing nature when you are 11) or shes lying
 
Onket said:
Missing the point of what I am saying & then flying of the handle.

I didn't come on here to be slated for my experiences & making a lighthearted comment about them, thanks.


My point is that a kid should be believed unless you have proof to the contrary (having been told by the parents or a medical/diet form). unless you are a parent or in the position of having responsibility for the child for long periods (when you should have the forms), then allowing the kid choice of what they eat is right.

Having your own opinions on whether the kid is telling the truth or not is one thing, telling them what your opinion is, or trying to argue with them is a different matter.

LMHF is coming from a place where people have told her daughter that she isn't telling the truth about her allergies, have tried to convince her that she can eat foods that will make her ill. it's not a place of 'some kids are pretentious little shits' it's protecting the well being of her daughter. The fact that she is vocal about this issue is not uncommon when a parent has had to deal with idiots who are ignorant about food and about children.

I'm saying that a non parent should not be arguing about what a kid does and does not want to eat. 'i don't want to eat that' should be enough for a non parent to stop offering that to a kid.
 
I still hate butter beans :p

I used to hate parsnips, turnips, carrots all of those rooty vegetables, but roast them and they are fantastic!! :eek: :)
 
I think that sums it up pretty well.

I think to be honest my name gives people an excuse to take a cheap, rather lazy and very convenient dig if they dont agree with what I say and it makes me laugh that people who do it dont have the oomph to use anything else ( such as intelect) to argue a point with me- they get personal

Im not 'flying off the handle' Im simply argung you are maybe misguided in your assessment of children you know/knew- particularly when you asked me( almost incredulously I feel) whether it was a problem to have people assume a child is lying.

When you experience something negative and particularly when you child experiences that regularly you do feel the need to try to explain how it is when someones opinion is misguided( and where you feel explaining could make a difference- even to just you-that one person who youve addressed when trying to explain).
If thats 'flying off the handle' shoot me- I dont care :p
 
Just to clarify, this is what you said-

LilMissHissyFit said:
No you said you didnt believe them unless you got some sort of convincing explaination

And I didn't say that. But as I don't have the intellect :rolleyes: to argue, I'll leave it there.
 
just to add the the "the child might be lying thing", my best friend's son has Cystic Fibrosis and has to eat snacks and special meals, has to just to get nourishment, and takes special enzymes to help him digest his food, it got really bad at his school when he was a small child, the teacher, yes, the teacher, made fun of him and refused to allow him any special privileges when it came to his eating "habits", my friend, Brenda, who is a fiercly protective mother with reason, ended up going to his school and sitting in the classroom and going head to head with the teacher to make sure he was "allowed" to eat the things at the time he had too. Sometimes this isn't taken seriously enough. Nut allergies are a huge thing, kids die, really....die !! from peanut allergies, and nuts are banned from a huge portion of Canadian schools, like peanut butter sandwiches and the like, and still mothers go....."you can't stop my kiddy from bringing peanut butter sandwiches, you can't tell me what to give my kid to eat", just to be bullish about it! My ex-boyfriend had a tracheotomy (sp?) after eating something cooked in peanut oil because it wasn't disclosed, and nearly died. This stuff is serious!!
 
Not so much hated but when I was younger the smell of curry used to turn my stomach and make me heave. :eek:

This has died down now. A couple of years ago I tried a mild curry from the supermarket. Upset my stomach slightly but nothing like the effect it used to have.

More recently an asian family has moved in round the corner and regularly cook curries. When I go past walking the dogs it smell delicious. So may be time to try one again and hopefully open up a whole new continents cuisine. :)
 
ragsym said:
Yes - they're just so wrong!! for some reason so much worse than kidney beans and butter beans - not sure why....
I was never too fussed about broad beans as a kid, but didn't like runner beans.

I love broad beans now, but frozen ones tend to be a bit tough-skinned :(
 
I hated olives as a kid and now think that I missed out on ovre a decade of valuable olive eating which now has to be made up for.
 
Onket said:
I didn't actually say your daughter was a spoilt little shit did I?

If I did then I must have missed it when I re-read my post to check. :rolleyes:
Sounds like you pressed some of LMHF's buttons.

As someone who appears to have some kind of intolerance to meat (I tend to go a bit grey and light-headed, and feel unwell for 2-3 days afterwards), I can sympathise with her position: it DOES get very irritating when you get the impression you're supposed to justify your food preferences to someone in order not to just be seen as "fussy".

I suffered hell as a kid, since the reason for my aversion to meat wasn't known then - for the period while I was on school dinners, most of my lunchtimes were spent sitting in front of plates of mince, spam fritters, or - worst - fish, quietly sobbing my eyes out and begging to be allowed to leave it, while I watched all the other kids guzzle up and go outside to play. Instead, I had to force down stuff that just felt and tasted "wrong": I can only remember that my aversion to meat, even when it was concealed in other stuff, was total and very, very powerful.

I could have used a bit of the tolerance LMHF is trying to get for her kid.

This isn't me having a go at you, Onket, really: it's just another View From The Other Side. Some kids ARE just fussy, but it's normally pretty easy to spot them, and, frankly, it's probably better to err on the side of caution lest some kid with a genuine problem ends up having to go through the sort of shit I did.
 
Well, I was a kid who hated vegetables, and just ate meat and icecream and chocolate.

Now I'm a veggie, and don't eat much icecream or chocolate any more...

(Mind you, I still can't be bothered with most fruit. Just too much like hard work)
 
I used to despise spinach but will eat it quite happily now.

My 6 year old adores sprouts :eek: In fact he will eat any sort of vegetable but will only eat pork or chicken - doesn't like red meat at all. He eats all his meals with salad cream or ketchup though - doesn't like gravy :D
 
Onket said:
Just to clarify, this is what you said-



And I didn't say that. But as I don't have the intellect :rolleyes: to argue, I'll leave it there.

errm I think You'll find you said

What really used to wind me up was people who used to say they were allergic to something when all they actually meant was that they didn't particularly like it. Spoilt little shits usually.

and then you said

Does it?

I used to just say "Why, what happens?" in reponse to them. I can't remember anyone having a proper answer. We are talking about kids though.

which in effect amounts to exactly that.... how do you know what they 'actually meant'?? why should anyone have to explain ? allergy or not. If you dont want to eat something, no matter what the reason you shouldnt have to.

PS's post demonstrates just how uncaring some people can be when they are under the impression that someone is being 'a spoilt little shit'
 
:eek: FREAKY how many people shared my childhood rejection of raw tomatoes while happily eating tomato sauce/soup/whatever. Anyway I'm happily over it now, but only for really firm, red, plum tomatoes - those pale pink watery ones still make me feel sick.

Other things I used to hate but now love: aubergines, avocados, wobbly custard things like creme caramel.

Things I never managed to like: olives, mussels, okra (if it looks like snot i'm just not having it), mangoes, bananas.

things which I weirdly adored as a kid and still do: spinach in any form, raw red meat (steak tartare mmmmmmm), carrots.
 
pembrokestephen said:
Sounds like you pressed some of LMHF's buttons.

Indeed.

pembrokestephen said:
Some kids ARE just fussy, but it's normally pretty easy to spot them,

And just to make it absolutely clear, these are the kids I was on about. As you can see from what I posted, and what has kindly been quoted above.
 
I was a very fussy eater , and would often when asked reply I wanted only 6 beans, if I had anymore than that I could not eat my dinner. Really could not it became like it was contaminated. I also could not bear foods touching each other on the plate or folk touching my food which my sis often did in order to steal my chips ! I disliked most foods esp on sight/smell but over the past 10 years I have gotten over most of my dislikes or stranges ways with food. The ones that remain are I loathe eggs (but will eat quiche !) and I really struggle to sit accross the table from someone eating eggs the look and the smell makes me feel eurgh, also brown sauce I can't even look at opened bottles without almost puking and my biggest annoyance and one that I wish I could get over is Im uber sensitive to folk making noise when eating... :o
 
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