Florida's new "Shoot to kill"

[pbman]

Still don't care, sorry.

Brazill???

And are you serisouely saying you don't care about any of your laws or rights in the uk?

AT all.

If so,i'm clearly talking to the wrong person.

Why do you come to a politics board anyway?

 

[spring-peeper]

I've alilized your gun laws for about 10,000 posts, i can't be arsed to do it for brazil.

But as long as liberals feel good about themsleves, thats the main thing.

Who cares if robbery and rapes and assults go sky high, like in the uk.

The important thing about any law is how it makes liberals feel about themselves.

Out of these 10,000 posts, what percentage of these were actually discussing my countries gun laws. Very, very few imo.

Come on - dare you to post me a couple. Double-dare!!!

I'll settle for three - let's go. Many to chose from, right?

 

[spring-peeper]

And are you serisouely saying you don't care about any of your laws or rights in the uk?

AT all.

If so,i'm clearly talking to the wrong person.

Why do you come to a politics board anyway?

No, really don't care about the gun laws in the UK, either.

I post on this thread because I'm interested in learning about different cultures and use this information to help me understand the human condition.

Why are you here? What do you hope to gain from this experience?

 

[pbman]

Out of these 10,000 posts, what percentage of these were actually discussing my countries gun laws. Very, very few imo.
?

All of them.

I proactically discused nothing else for my first year here.

And i like many have way more than the 20,000 showing now.

Come on - dare you to post me a couple. Double-dare!!!

ARe you going to admit the importance of blackstone on the topic of english law?

Anyways, here's why their was no looting in texas.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a131/nicki_f/no_looting.jpg

 

[spring-peeper]

Out of these 10,000 posts, what percentage of these were actually discussing my countries gun laws. Very, very few imo.

Come on - dare you to post me a couple. Double-dare!!!

I'll settle for three - let's go. Many to chose from, right?

Tick tock, pbman.

Come on, you claimed that there were lots of posts about my country.

In political forums, you only post what you can prove.

Show me the threads.

(pssst - it's spelt C A N A D A )

 

[pbman]

Tick tock, pbman.

Come on, you claimed that there were lots of posts about my country.

In political forums, you only post what you can prove.

Show me the threads.

(pssst - it's spelt C A N A D A )

lol

Ask anyone, we did the topic to death with hundreds of pages on the topic.

Ask one of the moderator even, they all remmber.

I don't need proof for what is common knolege.

 

[spring-peeper]

All of them.

I proactically discused nothing else for my first year here.

And i like many have way more than the 20,000 showing now.



ARe you going to admit the importance of blackstone on the topic of english law?

Anyways, here's why their was no looting in texas.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a131/nicki_f/no_looting.jpg

Why should I care about England when you don't care about Brazil?

Why should I care about Texas, I thought the thread was about Florida?

Come on, then show me 5 posts out of the 20,000 now showing.

You did say that all these posts were about Canadian gun laws, remember?

Just copy and paste me a couple.

 

[spring-peeper]

lol

Ask anyone, we did the topic to death with hundreds of pages on the topic.

Ask one of the moderator even, they all remmber.

I don't need proof for what is common knolege.

Oh yes, I am really going to pm the editor and ask if pbman made 10,000 posts on Canadian Gun Law. Give me a break.

You post something, you take responsibility for it.

Now, back up your claim - post samples of discussions relating to Canadian Gun Laws.

 

[pbman]

Oh yes, I am really going to pm the editor and ask if pbman made 10,000 posts on Canadian Gun Law. Give me a break.
.

I was thinking uk.

I probably only have 5,000 posts laughing at your law, and what its costing you.

Me along with hundreds of thousands of other americans feeped you guys bad, with just an e-mail form me, your gov't had to mail me a very expenive and costly to ship packet on our new laws.

It must have been 20.00 each.

anyways,i don't have to prove my innocence, i'm american, you have to prove me guilty.

You have the burden of proof, not I.

That little fact is buried in one of those things you don't care about.

 

[spring-peeper]

I was thinking uk.

I probably only have 5,000 posts laughing at your law, and what its costing you.

Me along with hundreds of thousands of other americans feeped you guys bad, with just an e-mail form me, your gov't had to mail me a very expenive and costly to ship packet on our new laws.

It must have been 20.00 each.

anyways,i don't have to prove my innocence, i'm american, you have to prove me guilty.

You have the burden of proof, not I.

That little fact is buried in one of those things you don't care about.

Your country of origin or the laws that it passes has little relevance here.

This is a political board and it is your responsiblity to proof any of your claims if you are challenged.

Ask anyone, contact the mods, they will tell you.

It's common knowledge.

Now post or admit you have lost the argument on a technically and leave the thread.

edit to add: I'm verry verry happy that you and your widdle fwends figured out how to use email and have put your new discowery to good use.

 

[pbman]

This is a political board and it is your responsiblity to proof any of your claims if you are challenged.

.

No its not, that just commie shit talk, made up by people to lazy or incompetet to google.

You have to prove me wrong.

 

[spring-peeper]

how long can it take to find one of 5,000 posts?

Really can't continue until you back up your claims.

Maybe, one of your widdle fwends can teach you to use the search feature.

meh - we are in different time zones and now I must leave. I'll look for the proof in the morning.

 

[spring-peeper]

No its not, that just commie shit talk, made up by people to lazy or incompetet to google.

You have to prove me wrong.

Look at that, you speak redneck. How nice.

Maybe your problem is that you seem to want to use google to search for your 5000 posts.

It might be easier for you to use the search feature on the site.

 

[pbman]

Look at that, you speak redneck. How nice.

Maybe your problem is that you seem to want to use google to search for your 5000 posts.

It might be easier for you to use the search feature on the site.

Burden of proof is one of the most important issues in litigation, and in criminal cases it is closely linked with the presumption of innocence - the principle in most modern legal systems that an accused person is "innocent until proven guilty".

The burden, therefore, initially lies with the plaintiffs in a case, and not on a defendant who would need to prove that something did not happen. Adequate evidence can, however, shift the burden of proof to the other party.

In criminal cases, the burden of proof is often on the prosecutor. The principle that it should be is known as the presumption of innocence, but is not upheld in all legal systems or jurisdictions. Where it is upheld, the accused will be found innocent if a valid case is not presented.

For example, if the defendant (D) is charged with murder, the prosecutor (P) bears the burden of proof to show the jury that D did murder someone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof

 

[spring-peeper]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof

I believe that is for a court of law, this is a debate. (big difference)

I found this on debating though,

Proof

A great deal has been written and said about the burden of proof, and certain misconceptions have arisen about the duty of the affirmative. The rule is simple:

Rule 5a. He who asserts must prove.

source

You asserted now you must prove.

(or post a link to a debating rules that offer a different set of rules)

 

[pbman]

I believe that is for a court of law, this is a debate. (big difference)

I found this on debating though,



source

You asserted now you must prove.

(or post a link to a debating rules that offer a different set of rules)

Its not a debate point.

Its you missing the point.

I've disscusd gun laws of many nations here to the point were no one wants to bring the subject up anymore.

Thats common knolege, i don't have to prove it.

Like i said ask anyone.

 

[spring-peeper]

Its not a debate point.

Its you missing the point.

I've disscusd gun laws of many nations here to the point were no one wants to bring the subject up anymore.

Thats common knolege, i don't have to prove it.

Like i said ask anyone.

Sorry, I thought this all started because you have already discussed British gun law, so you shouldn't have to discuss Brazil law.

Personally, I wasn't interested in any countries laws. I just want to know that my family will be safe in Florida next time we go to Disneyland.

Anyway, you can't proof your claims that you have posted over 5000 posts on Canadian Gun Laws.

I win on a TKO.

Case closed.

End of thread.

 

[pbman]

Sorry, I thought this all started because you have already discussed British gun law, so you shouldn't have to discuss Brazil law.

.

It did.

Unless you can show how anything is different,why bother.

Personally, I wasn't interested in any countries laws. I just want to know that my family will be safe in Florida next time we go to Disneyland.

They will be much more safe with this new law.

Just don't drive a car with rental plates from out of state or something like that.

Criminals will try to prey on visitors cause they know you don't have a gun.

Anyway, you can't proof your claims that you have posted over 5000 posts on Canadian Gun Laws.

I said 10,000 on english gun laws.

That the same thing.

And most everyone knows its true but you.

So you didn't win much.

 

[nino_savatte]

No its not, that just commie shit talk, made up by people to lazy or incompetet to google.

You have to prove me wrong.

X!!!! Must you call everyone you disagree with a "commie" regardless of their political inclinations?

This is more fascist shit talk from an inbred pencil neck gun nut.

 

[ViolentPanda]

My argument can never be as convincing...

How very true.

 

[pbman]

X!!!! Must you call everyone you disagree with a "commie" regardless of their political inclinations?

This is more fascist shit talk from an inbred pencil neck gun nut.

I didn't call anyone a commie,i said commies invented such shit talk or whatever.

It just a genreral slur for weseal or whatever.

 

[pbman]

How very true.

Of course, i'm not a tiny 98 lb girl.

I can take care of myself, quite well with or without a weapon.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

But you are a big cowardly jessie aren't you pbman, hiding behind your guns.

 

[pbman]

But you are a big cowardly jessie aren't you pbman, hiding behind your guns.

lol

From who?

Guns are neccessary to keep power in the hands of the people.

Thats why commies don't like them.

 

[nino_savatte]

I didn't call anyone a commie,i said commies invented such shit talk or whatever.

It just a genreral slur for weseal or whatever.

You're a liar and there are a multitude of posts that exist as evidence.

You cannot resist using juvenile mudslinging as a means of covering up your inability to debate or argue. As long as you continue to call people "commie", I will reply by calling you a "fascist". I think it's only fair.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Of course, i'm not a tiny 98 lb girl.

I can take care of myself, quite well with or without a weapon.

...and yet you never had the courage to enlist, did you?

It appears to me that you're one of those chickenshits who only ever fights when the odds are in their favour, and then crys like a bay when they get their arse kicked.

 

[Streathamite]

I didn't call anyone a commie,i said commies invented such shit talk or whatever.

It just a genreral slur for weseal or whatever.

you mean "a slur used by people too thick and ignorant to understand such complex concepts"?

 

[pbman]

...and yet you never had the courage to enlist, did you?

It appears to me that you're one of those chickenshits who only ever fights when the odds are in their favour, and then crys like a bay when they get their arse kicked.

lol

It nice of you to forget the answer to that one for the 77 time.

 

[ViolentPanda]

lol

It nice of you to forget the answer to that one for the 77 time.

You mean your answer about having been too good a shot to join up in case you embarassed the army with your marksmanship, or the one about you having been too old after 9/11?

Pathetic chickenhawk loser.

 

[Rentonite]

It would be interesting for all of us to meet somewhere.

So many will never come out from behind their computerscreens.
Thats ok such is the nature of the internet.
I have found that all we can do here is argue and share opinion.
all the insults are as nothing all the threats are as nothing.
That is the disconnection that emboldens so many to be so nasty from the safe place behind their computer screens.
Human nature tends to take over and rational arguments become insults
once either oponnent in an internet argument replys with an insult the "insulter" has lost, has surrendered the argument.
We have All done it.
Many do this with out even understanding what it is that they have done.

Some of the most immature posters insult other posters Prior to an argument.
When this happens it becomes obvious that they Have no argument and only populate the boards to serve some emotional need that they are not able to satisfy in real life.
So many here refuse logic, and hope that the political positions that they have been tought will somehow win the day.
It becomes a self defence mecanism. It is the "I dont want to look like a fool for falling for this silly Political position" issue.
No one wants to admit when they are wrong.
That is understandable. It is also arrogant.
So many will not let them selves give an inch on a political position (even the ones that they where tought) reguardless of how obviously wrong it is.
That is Human nature, We are all Humans.
It is easy to forget that WARS are fought over such things.
So,

What is it that you would DO?
Many here complain about what is happening, what would you do instead?
Give up?
But then that is incorrect isnt it.
What would you HAVE US do....

You are again "SAFE" from behind your computer screen V Panda, (and all the other regular suspects.)

So, Spout yer poison...............