First Eurostar on its way to St. Pancras

Discussion in 'transport' started by T & P, Sep 4, 2007.

  1. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    Saw live pictures of St. Pancras on the news this morning. It looks fucking ace.

    Look forward to that O'Leary cunt stomping his feet some more. :D
  2. editor

    editor hiraethified

    It's already exceeded 200mph on the test run and will take just just 2 and a quarter hours to reach Paris from London.

    Marvellous stuff!
  3. Xanadu

    Xanadu Masterful but awkward

    I can't wait to be able to pop to Paris for a day trip :D
  4. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

    You already can, its only cutting the journey by 20 minutes. I've been to Brussells for the day before now in the Eurostar.
  5. Xanadu

    Xanadu Masterful but awkward

    But it now goes to St Pancras instead of Waterloo. I can be at St Pancras in just over 10 minutes. Waterloo takes something like 45 minutes.

    But I'm just inventing excuses. The truth of the matter is that I have noone willing to go with me :oops: :D
  6. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    I was looking at the website earlier and if you book early enough there actually are loads of £59 return tickets up for grabs.

    Very, very tempting just to drop by for an afternoon of shopping and/or strolling about.
  7. editor

    editor hiraethified

    It's broken the Paris to London record!

    "The train, carrying journalists and VIPs, arrived at St Pancras, instead of Waterloo...took two hours, three minutes, 39 seconds."
  8. editor

    editor hiraethified

    I'm tempted too. Travelling by train to the continent still sounds impossibly exotic to me, and the fact that you can be on the train within an hour of waking up at home appeals to me no end!

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    I'm a bit sad because Waterloo was much better for me.
  10. Bob_the_lost

    Bob_the_lost Elsewhere

    Same, it'll take me an extra 10 minutes to get to Paris now. :(

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    Paris is lame anyway.
  12. beeboo

    beeboo geek chic

    Likewise, but the silver lining is that new station looks like it's going to be quite exciting.

    There's something very romantic about the idea of getting a train to Paris which isn't borne out by the experience of Waterloo station. Bring on the champagne bars, I say! :cool:
  13. disownedspirit

    disownedspirit New Member

    are any trains still going to run from waterloo?

    st pancras is a pain in the arse if you've got to go to south london
  14. christonabike

    christonabike Elm Park Bencher

    What the fuck is going to happen to the big Eurostar terminal at Waterloo?

    New cardboard city?

  15. Tom A

    Tom A Goat among sheep

    Hopefully it will get reused for domestic commuter services. Waterloo is one of the busiest termini in London AFAIK.
  16. christonabike

    christonabike Elm Park Bencher

    I expect it to be left empty for 12 years...........

  17. beeboo

    beeboo geek chic

    I think the plan is to use the Eurostar platforms for commuter services, but for a number of stupid reasons (one of which is to do with franchise arrangements I think) it's going to take years to implement. Meanwhile Waterloo remains one of the most congested stations in the country :rolleyes:
  18. davesgcr

    davesgcr Reading books

    First bit of Waterloo international goes domestic next year - it wont be wasted - ! Trust me !.

    PS - its also getting gated too .....
  19. chio

    chio New Member

    I wish they'd extend this high-speed thingie to the North West. If I was to use this, I'd still have to trek all the way to London on that awful west-coast line. People will just carry on flying.
  20. PacificOcean

    PacificOcean Unhinged User

    £5 billion to shave 20 minutes of the journey time?

    What a waste. They could have just opened another ticket window.
  21. beeboo

    beeboo geek chic

    ooh, I stand corrected :)
  22. beeboo

    beeboo geek chic

  23. Isambard

    Isambard Dab of Rioja, Kitten? :D

    Although St Pancras is less convenient for South London than Waterloo, it is better for t'North and only a short step for you from Euston Chio. I was just reading yesterday that the new East Midland franchise stipulates that the first trains into London have to be early enough so people on business can be on the continent by 9AM. Ideally of course would be through trains from major centres to Paris and Brussels but planning and investment going nowhere as the Home Office won't contemplate passport control on trains.
  24. Poi E

    Poi E Well-Known Member

    At least you'll be able to view the trains at St P. No viewing at Waterloo.

    <grabs anorak>
  25. Tom A

    Tom A Goat among sheep

    Just did a comparison between the distance between London and Paris and London and Lancaster. Now with the new times the former takes about 30-45 less time then the latter, even though Lancaster is about 50 miles closer to London than Paris (but in t'other direction). Also compared a more similar journey (in terms of distance) on the domestic network (London-Newcastle) to London-Paris, again, about 30-45 mins difference (although the ECML is a pretty fast beastie, would be faster still if Network Rail would get off their arses and install cab signalling on the line like they do with the TGVs in France).

    Which is making me wonder who much difference the CTRL will have really made, a lot of money spent for 45 minutes less time on a train...
  26. Janh

    Janh signs might be omens

    Is the new St Pancras station open to the public now?
  27. oneflewover

    oneflewover Following "The Tigers"

    The Guardian has a dig on it's front page that it was 3minutes late and later likens it to a big dipper, but fully shows his ignorance with his "two engine train"
  28. untethered

    untethered For industry & decency

    My thoughts exactly.
  29. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    Well it's the first bit of high speed line we ever have in this country. By itself does not seem like much value for money (though anything that attract travellers away from planes and into trains its invaluable IMO). But as part of a larger network, say one that allowed folk to travel from Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle and Scotland to Paris, it would be very good value for money indeed.

    Unfortunately that is unlikely to happen in the forseeable future unless Gordon has a change of heart.
  30. FabricLiveBaby!

    FabricLiveBaby! Live Baby Fabric!

    Ahhh if only british rail networks were that quick!

    Brighton in 20minsfrom central london would be :cool:

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