Finsbury Park- Blackstock Road raids.

[tarannau]

If it was racist white English criminals hissing abuse and grabbing at the veils of local women shopping and going to the Mosque - and stealing their bags and phones and trading in stolen goods and false documents and committing organised benefit fraud on a huge scale, and sending the money to white supremacist groups, and 600 police arrested 57 of them on a list in a 100 yard area after 18 months planning, would that be a problem?

I wouldn't have thought so, and this is no different.

Criminal gangs. Don't give a shit what ethnicity or nationality or religion or whatever they are, they needed to be stopped.

Course it would be a problem. Why the fuck wait 18 months for the problem to become so endemic that such a heavy handed swoop became necessary? Why not engage with the community before and tackle the obvious troublemakers.

This could have been dealt with so much more effectively> I'm not going to cheerlead what appears to be police inactivity followed by an antediluvian show of force.

 

[Melinda]

meanwhile 10 minutes walk down the road most of the UK's heroin supply is quietly being distributed

Tell the police then.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Tell the police then.

They already know.

 

[smokedout]

They already know.

innit

sorry bk, fellow comrade an all that but if you think this was some heroic act to drive out organised crime then you're deluding yourself

there really isnt much money in nicked mobile phones

 

[lighterthief]

sorry bk, fellow comrade an all that but if you think this was some heroic act to drive out organised crime then you're deluding yourself

What do you think the motive behind the police action was?

 

[lenny101]

Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but I have just moved into a flat on Blackstock Road and it seems alright so far. I have lived in far more dodgy areas in London. I don't want to read the thread just in case it makes me scared to go out at night.

 

[sal64lon]

Hi sal, whats it like now from a shop keepers point of view. Is it still quiet? When I walk down the road it seems quiet now but I am not there late at night.

Have the people who were causing trouble ventured back yet?

Sal

Thanks all for your reply and especially to your post. My answer to you is follow with some facts even maybe some people not agree with me or don’t believe me! However I only want to share it with you to understand sometimes police also made mistakes:


1) We have had few meeting with local authority etc...
2) Today we met with one lawyer!
3) It seems so much harassment from police daily picking on the wrong people etc...(for example 2 days ago police asked one Algerian not come the area for 24 hours even the man not doing anything wrong at all and that’s not right in a free country like Great Britain!
4) Police visited the Mediterranean coffee (@blackstock road) then asked some customers to leave if they are not a customers etc... (The owner of that coffee shop told me!)
5) Police up n down in the road on their van asking any person for his ID name add...Etc...(That only for Algerian or for people olive colour skin) This like the French way and some Algerian think all that do to the French President visit to The Area( in the same time and day and place of the raid!)
6) Now the immigration goes each shop @ balckstock road area and checking for illegal immigrant workers! (Most time those people work to survive and not committing crimes etc. (the trouble makers are well known to police most of the are the younger one on their teen age...


7) The business very dead and not busy and people are scared to come to the area for shopping and that make business more to come as most of our customers are Algerians.
8) When the police go to some shop like one shop, fix phones and computers,, the police on that day of the raid they took few items ( customers phones ipod left at that shop to be repaired…NORMALLY in any country when police took anything they should give a receipts but on this case nothing given and that make shop owner see it like rubbery (How come police not give any receipts of that they took from that shop! is this right? Is this allowed in this country Law?
9) They took some money from tills and count that as money laundry!! How come! This is some points and many more we have to talk about it in other time
10) the people who were causing trouble still walking free as shop owners we know those people already and police know them but nothing done,

Thanks all for your reply

 

[sal64lon]

Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but I have just moved into a flat on Blackstock Road and it seems alright so far. I have lived in far more dodgy areas in London. I don't want to read the thread just in case it makes me scared to go out at night.

welcome To blackstock road , is not that bad only media make sound that way hope you will enjoy your stay

 

[Badger Kitten]

innit

sorry bk, fellow comrade an all that but if you think this was some heroic act to drive out organised crime then you're deluding yourself

there really isnt much money in nicked mobile phones

It wasn't about mobile phones.

Sssssh....It was about funding extremist GIA-related activity, false documents, massive fraud and ultimately, terrorism

 

[Badger Kitten]

There was a hard core criminal gang - well, actually, three - one Somali, two Algerian and they were into phones, drugs, stolen laptops and satnavs, forged documents ( passports, driving licences, new identities), credit card and benefit fraud and ''raising money for the mujuhideen''.

They were using innocent Algerians, who have respectable businesses and have homes and families in the area as cover.

Which is a tragedy for the innocent Algerians living in the area.

But they had to be stopped.

There is a lot more going on than appears on the surface.

 

[sal64lon]

hello People it seems since my last post everything dead hehe Never mind! It will be a film soon at blackstock Road called London River for the french Algerian "Rachid Bouchareb"
and it will be realeased on Fab 2009 I think .....London River --->

Plot Synopsis
Two strangers (Muslim and Christian) come to London to find their son and daughter who have been missing since the July 2005 bombings. They discover their children had been living together at the time of the attacks. (Variety)