Films With Rape Scenes

[QueenOfGoths]

You have an issue with Pulp Fuction, don't you. Do you think Marcellus Wallace's rape was presented to us as something to laugh at? Is that your point?

And as I asked: which films present female rape as sexy?

I do find the rape scene in "Pulp Fiction" rather gratuitous and unnecessary, the whole thing with the gimp appears, to me, to be salacious and there for wierdness factor alone rather than anything else.

However, I will also admit that I really don't like the film so this may colour my judgement rather

eta: just read Nanker's post above. You see I don't think Tarentino does get away with it, even with vengeance angle. However, again, I think that may reflect more on me and my view of the film

 

[Yetman]

Which ones?

Seriosu question as I admit I have been trying to remember something I saw that was meant to be nasty but I found it quite...uhm...you know But I can't remember what it was at all

Secretary?

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Secretary?

Is there a rape in Secretary?

 

[Pickman's model]

This. But isn't any rape scene gratuitous? In what way does it add to the film that couldn't be alluded to?

Maybe I'm a prude but it's a line I don't think should be crossed. Where does it stop, child abuse, animals?

the rape's fairly central to the plot in titus andronicus but that doesn't mean it's got to be filmed in pornorape

 

[Thora]

You have an issue with Pulp Fuction, don't you. Do you think Marcellus Wallace's rape was presented to us as something to laugh at? Is that your point?

And as I asked: which films present female rape as sexy?

Hmm, I can't think of specific ones off the top of my head. It's not so much that they're overtly sexy, it's just that they're almost presented with a similar formula to sex scenes - the heroine gets to look all big eyed with ruffled hair, clothes are torn and skirts pushed up so the audience can admire exposed breasts and thighs. It's all just very unnecessary for depicting the horror of a rape.

 

[killer b]

And as I asked: which films present female rape as sexy?

there's a rape scene in hitch hike which is presented in a very erotic way, all red lighting and jazzy music. i found it more disturbing than any more violent scenes i've seen...

 

[Pickman's model]

I think the OP is unacceptable. I think it's wrong and I am uncomfortable seeing this topic being discussed on the forum. The OP can find this info on google, he doesn't need to subject it to a discussion. I think he was wrong to post it and am saying so. There is nothing glamarous about rape and really what kind of person goes 'hey mate what films have rape scenes in them?'

i'm not usually lost for words, but i don't think there exists a word for the complete contempt i have for you.

 

[Yetman]

Is there a rape in Secretary?

No, but its weird. In any other film it'd be horrible and pervy but in Secretary its sort of sexy. You'd have to see it to know what I mean.

Its that bloody Spader sexing things up again. He cant help it. The big cad.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

eta: just read Nanker's post above. You see I don't think Tarentino does get away with it, even with vengeance angle. However, again, I think that may reflect more on me and my view of the film

You're right, it is salacious, but he does get away with it.

The gimp, the caricature rednecks, the revenge angle, 'I'm gonna get medieval on your arse'.....it's presented as gimmicky fun male rape with a cool theme tune and some badass quotes...schlock, b-movie, exploitation with hollywood gloss on top.

 

[Grandma Death]

This. But isn't any rape scene gratuitous?

Indeed some more than others. Irriversible a case in point. Way too long-the impact of the scene wouldn't have been lessened in any way if it was shorter-I was shot down in flames on this very board years ago for suggesting this.

Rape is fucking horrific and I think its portrayed in cinema IME in a quite exploitative way. I saw a documentray on BBC2 years ago about the portrayal of rape in cinema. The programme makers not only looked at the history of rape in cinema and its portrayal they also, to illustrate their point, made two rape sequences for the programme. Same actors and same scene. One was filmed in the same style as a great many rape sequences are filmed-the other in an explicit and more brutal manner.

The differences in some cases were quite subtle and unless they were pointed out you may not have noticed. It was the overall sequence and the little differences that made the two scenes quite different and distinctive from each other.

 

[5t3IIa]

Hmm, I can't think of specific ones off the top of my head. It's not so much that they're overtly sexy, it's just that they're almost presented with a similar formula to sex scenes - the heroine gets to look all big eyed with ruffled hair, clothes are torn and skirts pushed up so the audience can admire exposed breasts and thighs. It's all just very unnecessary for depicting the horror of a rape.

Eh? Which film is that?

 

[kyser_soze]

You have an issue with Pulp Fuction, don't you. Do you think Marcellus Wallace's rape was presented to us as something to laugh at? Is that your point?

And as I asked: which films present female rape as sexy?

No, the exact opposite if anything - I absolutely love it, and think it's a brilliant updating of the hardboiled gangster movie. I think that Marcellus' rape was done in the tone of the rest of the film, and while it's grim viewing, it's clearly done in the blackly comic tone of the rest of the film.

In fact, I'm coming to the conclusion that rape scenes are like any other form of violence in cinema - utterly unbelievable or so close to reality it makes you want to turn away from what you're seeing (which in and of itself is ain inrteresting reaction in someone who hasn't had prior experience - it's an act of dissociation from witnessing).

 

[Northern Uproar]

Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer had a pretty awful rape scene in it iirc

if my memory serves me correctly it was a pretty shite film full stop

 

[5t3IIa]

Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer had a pretty awful rape scene in it iirc

if my memory serves me correctly it was a pretty shite film full stop

Oh god - yeah. Nasty, with the film crew. The 'Granny Snuff' bit of that freaked me out more tbh - in context of that film the rape 'cartoony' iyswim.

 

[kyser_soze]

Oh god - yeah. Nasty, with the film crew. The 'Granny Snuff' bit of that freaked me out more tbh - in context of that film the rape 'cartoony' iyswim.

Wasn't the film crew 'Man Bites Dog'?

 

[5t3IIa]

Wasn't the film crew 'Man Bites Dog'?

Which one is the one with the canal things where he dumps the bodies and which later drains......

That one

 

[Pickman's model]

what happens to lavinia out of titus andronicus is really rather harsh but i don't know of anyone who's avoided seeing that play because of the brutal rape and amputation scene.

 

[asbestos]

Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer had a pretty awful rape scene in it iirc

if my memory serves me correctly it was a pretty shite film full stop

A very well made film imo.

 

[El Sueno]

'Strange Days' had some dubious 'first person view' rape n' murder stuff going on, as I recall.

The original Cook n' Moore 'Bedazzled' had a policeman in it who was obsessed with the crime of rape, but insisted it was the girl's fault 99% of the time. That was supposed to be funny though.

 

[spanglechick]

what happens to lavinia out of titus andronicus is really rather harsh but i don't know of anyone who's avoided seeing that play because of the brutal rape and amputation scene.

the rape and (Lavinia's) amputation happen off, no? I mean - as much as we know anything happens 'off'.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

what happens to lavinia out of titus andronicus is really rather harsh but i don't know of anyone who's avoided seeing that play because of the brutal rape and amputation scene.

You don't actually see the rape and amputation scene though - or should I say it is not in the play, it happens off stage. Though I suppose a director could choose to portray it is they wanted.

You do see the results of course.

Interestingly, in terms of violence being shown you should, in the play, actually see two severed heads, Titus cutting his hand off, two throats being cut, a number of other murders and cannabalistic pie eating.

 

[Pickman's model]

yeh, it's a top play

 

[Dirty Martini]

There's a rape scene in Last House on the Left, which is a nasty nasty little film, a bit like Straw Dogs but for the mentally enfeebled.

I don't like watching rape scenes at all, but dislike censorship. The problem with Last House was that it had done such a 'wink wink' job of coy titillation up to that point that it just came across as more of the same, at least to my eyes.

Anyone know this Australian film? Cant remember the name... The climax of the movie is a rape scene, and someone goes to get the small town outback sheriff to go and save the day. The sherrif is at the local bar, and he's jsut about to jump in his car, but he needs to do a piss first. What follows is a great bit of Aussie film: the piss takes a good 60 seconds, and the scene cuts back and forth from him pissing to the rape scene - it really works in a dramatic way.

It's called Shame. Not a bad revenge flick.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

I've always found rape scenes really uncomfortable to watch, but the only one that has stopped me watching a film was the one in Man Bites Dog (I think that's the correct name - it's the fictional documentary about a serial killer). It was pretty brutal up until that point, but the person who I was watching it with and I just had to turn off at that point.

I think rape scenes can be far worse than murders, because murders in films tend to be quicker. A protracted, brutal murder scene might be a better comparison.

 

[DotCommunist]

I've always found rape scenes really uncomfortable to watch, but the only one that has stopped me watching a film was the one in Man Bites Dog (I think that's the correct name - it's the fictional documentary about a serial killer). It was pretty brutal up until that point, but the person who I was watching it with and I just had to turn off at that point.

I think rape scenes can be far worse than murders, because murders in films tend to be quicker. A protracted, brutal murder scene might be a better comparison.

it's wierd, people (and the law) view murder as worse than rape, and yet you get films lie saw.

 

[spawnofsatan]

I found the rape scenes in The Entity more disturbing than any others.

 

[RubyBlue]

I found the rape scenes in The Entity more disturbing than any others.

that was one crap film

 

[Agent Sparrow]

it's wierd, people (and the law) view murder as worse than rape, and yet you get films lie saw.

Tbf, I don't choose to watch films like that. If I want to watch a horror film these days (which isn't often because I'm a wuss ), I'd prefer one of the more chilling, suspense types one. That's why I like the Japanese version of The Ring, even though it probably shits me up more afterwards than more crass gore films.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

it's wierd, people (and the law) view murder as worse than rape, and yet you get films lie saw.

Actually, to add to this, I wonder whether it's because there's more of a fear that sex crime can be glamourised compared to murder. To agree with thora previously, I seem to remember seeing at least a couple of rape scenes that were almost sexualised, or at least the true horror of the crime was softened a bit.

I also remember having a conversation with another urbanite, who said that in her opinion, the press could sometimes even make sex crimes seem slighty salacious in their write up. To add to that, years ago my uncle came over from Canada for a while, and one of the papers he ordered was the Sunday Sport (he thought it was a sports paper ). Being curious I did have a read, and there was a story about a headmaster shagging an underage female pupil, and that was definitely written in a salacious way. Mind you, this was the Sport.

 

[DotCommunist]

Actually, to add to this, I wonder whether it's because there's more of a fear that sex crime can be glamourised compared to murder. To agree with thora previously, I seem to remember seeing at least a couple of rape scenes that were almost sexualised, or at least the true horror of the crime was softened a bit.

I also remember having a conversation with another urbanite, who said that in her opinion, the press could sometimes even make sex crimes seem slighty salacious in their write up. To add to that, years ago my uncle came over from Canada for a while, and one of the papers he ordered was the Sunday Sport (he thought it was a sports paper ). Being curious I did have a read, and there was a story about a headmaster shagging an underage female pupil, and that was definitely written in a salacious way. Mind you, this was the Sport.

One of the more disturbing things about the Sport is how the stories that aren't about Elvis being found on the moon are excessive reportage on sex crimes. Deeply dodgy editorial policy imho.

wrt sexualised rape scenes, I can't recall any. I just find it odd that torture porn gets a green light from the censors but rape porn is actually illegal (that act wrt simulated sexual violence in pr0n did pass, didn't it?)

A fairly weird bit of societal schizophrenia.

I also think murder can be glamourised. Dexter gets top ratings, and despite the disclaimer aspect of him only murdering serial killers, it's clear that murder sells. In fiction or reportage.