really? i think it's a fairly interesting topic of discussion. how is it inapropriate?
if you find a subject uncomfortable, you could always ignore the thread y'know. or just walk out of the room until it's over.
Films With Rape Scenes
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if you find a subject uncomfortable, you could always ignore the thread y'know. or just walk out of the room until it's over.
madzone
Physically unfavourable
I bet you're also the type of reprobate who eats in the lift
madzone
Physically unfavourable
Have you not read any of chucky's posts before?really? i think it's a fairly interesting topic of discussion. how is it inapropriate?
if you find a subject uncomfortable, you could always ignore the thread y'know. or just walk out of the room until it's over.
I love her
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
I remember watching the Mike Leigh film Naked with a group of people, one of whom had been raped and had to leave the room during the scene. That was quite disturbing. On the other hand, the rape scene in Bad Boy Bubby, when Bubby is raped in prison to the sound of bagpipe music was strangely beautiful.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Both Leone and DeNiro took a lot of flak for that.
Two nasty rape scenes in that film
Go ahead. Your posted a thread that could provoke a strong repsonse. You got one.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Upchuck, you wouldn't pass a voight-kampff imo.
tell me about your mother.
tell me about your mother.
joustmaster
offcumdun
you are special.
madzone
Physically unfavourable
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
While it's a yes/no question, it's still a valid forum topic and suitable for discussion amongst the forum users.
If you wish to express concerns or feelings about rape scenes in films then please do so, but deciding a topic is wrong for discussion, or presented in a manner which is incorrect for the forum, is the job of the mods.
RubyBlue
faded and jaded
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
That was me. I got confused between the two French movies with serious rape scenes in them. Weren't they released really close to each other too?
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I can't see anything inappropriate about this thread - apart from comments accusing people of getting off on watching rape scenes when they've explicitly said they find them horrible.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
A few years ago a new-ish girlfriend told me the story of how she'd had been repeatedly raped while being kept hostage for around 24 hours - this was on holiday in Turkey and after her (then) boyfriend had crashed out.
I remember the first time after that we watched a film when a rape unexpectedly developed.
I have to say, you really should have good reason to include that stuff in film because it resonates viscerally with a chunk of the population to the point the entertainment is over. Calling it 'integral' isn't enough, there's a kind of moral responsibility not all film makers are aware of, imo.
I remember the first time after that we watched a film when a rape unexpectedly developed.
I have to say, you really should have good reason to include that stuff in film because it resonates viscerally with a chunk of the population to the point the entertainment is over. Calling it 'integral' isn't enough, there's a kind of moral responsibility not all film makers are aware of, imo.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Artists don't have any moral responsibility as to what they do or do not include in their work. Perhaps some kind of warning should preface films with rape scenes in, but to say that there's a moral responsibility to self-censor is wrong, IMO
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
It has nothing to do with censoring.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
This. But isn't any rape scene gratuitous? In what way does it add to the film that couldn't be alluded to?
Maybe I'm a prude but it's a line I don't think should be crossed. Where does it stop, child abuse, animals?
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
You're basically saying that artists should self-censor, based on potentially upsetting members of the audience.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
iirc the rape scene in Straw Dogs had to be edited to remove the scene where it appeared the actress was getting into it.
I've not seen straw dogs, I just remember Peckinpah bitching about it on some 'cencored films' program
I've not seen straw dogs, I just remember Peckinpah bitching about it on some 'cencored films' program
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
It was edited on it's original release, AFAIK it's now available as a Director's Cut.
Pretty good film too.
Pretty good film too.
It's a bit lazy putting a film like Straw Dogs alongside Irreversible.
if I'm subjected to viewing violence/rape then it has to be a visceral experience, that's why films like Scum, LETB work, the evoke a feeling of revulsion. What I hate is lazy *shock* stuff (of which there is plenty).
if I'm subjected to viewing violence/rape then it has to be a visceral experience, that's why films like Scum, LETB work, the evoke a feeling of revulsion. What I hate is lazy *shock* stuff (of which there is plenty).
Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
In answer to the OP, no hate rape scenes.
Especially dislike the ones in Crimewatch.
Especially dislike the ones in Crimewatch.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
I can associate with this, but I disagree that film makers have a responsibility, moral or otherwise.
films depict a whole range of issues and situations that can be upsetting to people who have experienced similar events - that's the power of cinema, it reflects and re-produces real life experiences on an emotive and powerful level (sometimes!).
I remember the Rape scene in Once Upon A Time in America as having a horrible impact on me when I was still a teenager, I hated it, felt it was ugly and unnecessary...which is what rape is. If we ware appalled by it as depicted then the film maker has done their job well.
5t3IIa
Registered User
Which ones?
Seriosu question as I admit I have been trying to remember something I saw that was meant to be nasty but I found it quite...uhm...you know
But I can't remember what it was at all 
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
This is getting there, I think.
It's not about rape being present in a film, it's about the context in which it's portrayed. For example, something like 'I Spit on Your Grave' or 'Cannibal Holocaust' are just nasty examples of filmmaking all round. Something like 'The Accused' has a serious message to get over. Or compare 'Scum' and 'Pulp Fiction'.
5t3IIa
Registered User
You have an issue with Pulp Fuction, don't you. Do you think Marcellus Wallace's rape was presented to us as something to laugh at? Is that your point?
And as I asked: which films present female rape as sexy?
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
I am still coming to terms with the scene in Pulp Fiction
Yeah, and Tarantino plays that dark, sick and twisted...and for laughs.
He just about gets away with it using vengence as a tool to placate the viewer.
I was thinking the other day there's a couple of Clint Eastwood films where he forces women into sex to 'show 'em who's boss' - Pale Rider is one and High Plains Drifter - these are rape scenes yet depicted as 'come uppance' or 'teaching a lesson'. - shocking!
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