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Fight Club

I think one of my favourite things is that you can take it in lots of different ways, depending on your outlook at that moment.
 
I think one of my favourite things is that you can take it in lots of different ways, depending on your outlook at that moment.

I remember there was a big brouhaha in the UK when it came out, papers like the Mail (surprisingly, given their past affiliations) were calling it a celebration of fascism. I just thought it was a great story, a fair reflection of society and its discontents.
 
It's empty. "with a long enough time-line, the probability of survival is zero."

There are two female characters, both are about sex and death.

The lighting is funny, most of the film takes place at night. The daylight scenes (that I recall) are to do with the alienation, separation and frustration that the characters feel when they relate to 'normality'. The disdain they hold it in.
 
It's empty. "with a long enough time-line, the probability of survival is zero."

There are two female characters, both are about sex and death.

The lighting is funny, most of the film takes place at night. The daylight scenes (that I recall) are to do with the alienation, separation and frustration that the characters feel when they relate to 'normality'. The disdain they hold it in.

Great job he had, in insurance. I always imagine kabbes has his own fight club in a cellar in Kennington.
 
The first half of the film is a terrific satire, but it lost me when when it got down to the actual fight club business. Then it picks itself up for a spectacular finale only to mildly disappointing with one of the most overused plot-twists. I'd already been sitting there for a while thinking "please don't let it be that".
 
I remember there was a big brouhaha in the UK when it came out, papers like the Mail (surprisingly, given their past affiliations) were calling it a celebration of fascism. I just thought it was a great story, a fair reflection of society and its discontents.

Yep, I remember the Evening Standard review was OTT, basically saying that if you liked this film you were a nazi.
 
Don't get the love for this film. Like The Matrix, people seem to make it out to be some profound philosophical masterpiece. It's just OK.
 
Don't get the love for this film. Like The Matrix, people seem to make it out to be some profound philosophical masterpiece. It's just OK.

The Matrix is possibly more radical than Fight Club given that it contains within it an actual argument for committing acts of terrorism against civilians.
 
Whoah, that's deep man !


If you really think Fight Club and The Matrix are among the most "radical" Hollywood films ever made, then you need to get your fanboy head out of your arse and watch a wider variety of films. :D
 
Hey...Matrix won 4 oscars...The Phantom Menace was nominated for 3 of those and could possibly have won at least one if there was no Matrix.

Could you live in a world where star wars ep 1 was an oscar winner?
 
I like The Matrix, but to claim that politically it's a radical film is laughable. And it was deserving of its technical awards over The Phantom Menace, though I don't have a problem with crappy films winning technical awards if they are deserved. The Phantom Menace was nominated for special effects, sound effects and sound editing and for all I know, its sound nominations were well deserved. It's special effects have dated less well than those of The Matrix, but that also has to do with the much greater number of effects needed for The Phantom Menace because 80% of what you see in that film is CGI.
 
The Matrix is fucking awful. Shit, pretentious, kung-fu, sci-fi, blockbuster tripe, served up with an "alternative" lick of paint to make it appear all deep and meaningful. It took itself way too seriously, if they'd added a bit of comedy and satire it might have been alright.

Fight Club is quite good tbf, but still can't shake off that air of Hollywood fluff about it.
 
Haven't seen it, fell asleep* 30 minutes in when we rented the dvd. :D

Saw enough.

*I can do this as a defence mechanism if a film is going to be bad and I'm not going to be allowed to say.
 
Can't disagree it could have gone further in certain places, but also in some places it goes right out there (Leto's disfigurement, the cancer lady wanting sex) and for me is very uncomfortable.

I'm not saying it has meaning other than the zeitgeist it wonderfully displayed...but we're in the 2010s now, that was the 1990s. I suppose you could relate it to Nirvana with Kurt Cobain in a weird way.
 
Probably a few of us watching this (Netflix) today or over the weekend.

Aged well?
Still love/hate/meh about?

I watched it a few months ago and would say it has aged well. Still really darkly funny and the score still sounds superb and unique. Some of the CGI/special effects seem a bit blunt and ott now imo, but on the whole I'd say its stood the test of time very well.
 
The ‘I haven’t been fucked like this since grade school’ line still makes me laugh out loud. More so because famously it was a replacement quote for another one the studio considered too offensive.
 
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The ‘I haven’t been fucked like this since grade school’ line still makes me laugh out loud. More so because famously it was a replacement quote for another one the studio considered too offensive.

There is a version knocking about with the other quote which I surprisingly saw on TV once. I think I may have been on business in Copenhagen so maybe the replacement quote doesn’t apply to all territories.

It was “I want to have your abortion”.

The replacement quote is arguably more offensive (I think in the UK we’re not aware that “grade school” is different to “high school”). Maximum age at grade school is 11. This certainly went over my head for many years.
 
There is a version knocking about with the other quote which I surprisingly saw on TV once. I think I may have been on business in Copenhagen so maybe the replacement quote doesn’t apply to all territories.

It was “I want to have your abortion”.

The replacement quote is arguably more offensive (I think in the UK we’re not aware that “grade school” is different to “high school”). Maximum age at grade school is 11. This certainly went over my head for many years.
Yes, that was the original quote. The story goes that the studio demanded it was taken out, and the director agreed only on the condition that he could write in a replacement quote and the studio made no further demands to remove it. So he wrote the grade school one as a deliberate ‘fuck you’ to Fox.
 
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