I wasn't around 60 years ago, but I have been going to gigs for over 30 years and feel I've experienced enough to have a view on how the way gigs are attended has changed. I've also been getting 'trashed' at gigs for that long too, and I don't have any issue with people altering their state to get into it, if they are getting into it (I once had a long period of sobriety and it took me quite a long time to adjust and start enjoying live music straight). I can get trashed without bothering others though, or thinking I have a right to walk over people or shove them out of my way to get past them. I've always gone to gigs to see and hear the musicians, not to hang out with my mates. I would go with mates, and we might even share some thoughts during a gig, but I don't chatter away like I'm sat at work bored and passing the time until I can go to the pub, and for the first 10 years of my gig going life this wasn't something I noticed at shows. It was during the 90s that I found more people were going to gigs in a group and having a night out as if they were in the pub. I recall the Jazz Cafe having their STFU sign painted on the column of the main stage. Kraftwerk at Brixton was an example where loads of people were just nattering away, Sigour Ros at the Astoria, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club at the Forum. I just noticed much more of it from the mid 90s onwards. I'm off to All Points East at Victoria Park today, so I'm interested to see how the audience differs. I shall compare and contrast both events. I shall try to keep a hold on reality, just for your benefit.