Ferguson complains the transfer market is over-inflated

[Discordia]

It reminds me of the time he sold, Kanchelskid, Ince & Hughes and didn't buy anyone.

IIRC we won the league the next year

Ah, faith. Admirable in a way, yet by definition delusional. United's team looks weak. They got absolutely ripped apart by the current best in the world, and they now just lost their best player and one of their best. Maybe they'll do alright in the league - they do have a lot of decent players and a great winning mentality (and other teams have a pathetic losing mentality to them). But against good teams? Not a chance.

And if the league goes wrong and you lose your Gravy Train League spot, I'd start praying. That's an awfully large mountain of debt, even with Ronaldo's fee reducing it a little (if you actually think the Glazers gave Ferguson 80m, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you).

I think very much he's putting his faith in the young lads coming through (not to mention the fact he's brought 3 players in to replace 2 going out)

If you're counting the likes of Obertan as an acquisition, then it's only fair to include the likes of Campbell leaving, too.

 

[revol68]

Ah, faith. Admirable in a way, yet by definition delusional. United's team looks weak. They got absolutely ripped apart by the current best in the world, and they now just lost their best player and one of their best. Maybe they'll do alright in the league - they do have a lot of decent players and a great winning mentality (and other teams have a pathetic losing mentality to them). But against good teams? Not a chance.

And if the league goes wrong and you lose your Gravy Train League spot, I'd start praying. That's an awfully large mountain of debt, even with Ronaldo's fee reducing it a little (if you actually think the Glazers gave Ferguson 80m, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you).


If you're counting the likes of Obertan as an acquisition, then it's only fair to include the likes of Campbell leaving, too.

It's not faith it's reasoned assumption based on empiricism, United have never finished lower than 3rd in the PL and have made those that have predicted their demise look very silly.

Saying that no team has won the League more than 3 in a row and United are the only team to have done that twice, so failure to win it this year is hardly such a let down, after all teams go through periods of transition.

Either way this season is an interesting one for Manchester United fans and I'm really looking forward to it.

 

[internetstalker]

Ah, faith. Admirable in a way, yet by definition delusional. United's team looks weak. They got absolutely ripped apart by the current best in the world, and they now just lost their best player and one of their best. Maybe they'll do alright in the league - they do have a lot of decent players and a great winning mentality (and other teams have a pathetic losing mentality to them). But against good teams? Not a chance.

Weak?

compared to who? Real Madrid?

2-0 isn't exactly ripped apart is it?

And if the league goes wrong and you lose your Gravy Train League spot, I'd start praying. That's an awfully large mountain of debt, even with Ronaldo's fee reducing it a little (if you actually think the Glazers gave Ferguson 80m, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you).

What are you saying?


Utd aren't good enought o win the league next year?

we're gonna finish mid table are we?

I'd bet £20 we're not out of the top 2 come the end of the season.

Fancy that bet?

i bet you don't

If you're counting the likes of Obertan as an acquisition, then it's only fair to include the likes of Campbell leaving, too.

fair point

 

[aylee]

Ah, faith. Admirable in a way, yet by definition delusional. United's team looks weak. They got absolutely ripped apart by the current best in the world, and they now just lost their best player and one of their best. Maybe they'll do alright in the league - they do have a lot of decent players and a great winning mentality (and other teams have a pathetic losing mentality to them). But against good teams? Not a chance.

And if the league goes wrong and you lose your Gravy Train League spot, I'd start praying. That's an awfully large mountain of debt, even with Ronaldo's fee reducing it a little (if you actually think the Glazers gave Ferguson 80m, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you).

I like your style .... .... but I think you go too far here. After all, none of the other top four teams have exactly set the transfer market alight so far this summer. Chelsea have only bought Zhirkov and could possibly lose Terry to Citeh. Liverpool have signed, erm, Glen Johnson and might lose Alonso. Arsenal's sole signing is Vermaelen - good player but unproven in the Premiership.

The real question next season will be whether Citeh's spending starts to pay off for them.

 

[internetstalker]

Ah, faith. Admirable in a way, yet by definition delusional. United's team looks weak. They got absolutely ripped apart by the current best in the world, and they now just lost their best player and one of their best. Maybe they'll do alright in the league - they do have a lot of decent players and a great winning mentality (and other teams have a pathetic losing mentality to them). But against good teams? Not a chance.

Utd are weak. but have a lot of decent players and have a winning mentality?

Have you even a clue WTF your rambling on about?

 

[DRINK?]

The real question next season will be whether Citeh's spending starts to pay off for them.

Can't see it.... "from a footballing perspective, I have never seen such a collection of mercenaries and misfits in my life. If anybody is being had, it is the poor gits on the council estate because the players being assembled there are never going to be considered as world class - in playing ability or attitude. They are all players that have attracted media attention for the wrong reasons, have been hyped on the back of that and are being desperately marketed as football players instead of the money grabbers they are.

All these players have been allowed to leave by their respective clubs for one reason or another. Barry had a stinking row with O’niel and some of his team mates last year, because of his disgraceful behaviour regarding the Dippers, which made his departure inevitable this time round - and all he could find was city. Tevez couldn’t get a game at United (to hear him talk) and behaved like the arrogant and immature schoolboy he obviously is, Adebayor promised Arsenal fans that he had been misunderstood and had no intention of leaving. His poor season and flirting with Italian teams has left him staring at the Arsenal exit door and where else for this mercenary but city? Santa Cruz was touted round the Premier League for two seasons, with no serious takers - giving it all the ‘I’m going nowhere’ when it suited him. Non of the big teams are interested so where better for him than - you’ve guessed it-city? A perfect place for Tiny Tears to end up as well, as he is the bggest two faced peice of shit going! Please buy him city!

As we have already pointed out, add this lot to the mercenaries and thugs already at city and can any one seriously see them competing for anything? It is a team assembled in haste, without thought of character nor balance and it is going to implode the same way it did at Newcastle and Tottenham. You can’t build a team in this manner with the quality (lack of it) of player they are attracting. Every single player they have would be swapped in a hurry by Mark Hughes for his opposite number at Old Trafford, Anfield or Highbury. City are not building a team to fear. They are not buying the Kakas or Ronaldos of the footballing world, they are buying nearly men, players that have had decent spells and then gone down hill - Tevez included."

 

[potential]

the transfer market is over heating...
villa paying £12mil on a [ championship ] player on crutches ??? wtf
banking £80 mil in a global recession is good business
man utd cant compete in the euro zone while the euro is strong and
the £ weak... man utd have quietly bought up a couple players cheaply and only time will tell if they are ok...

man city on the other hand seem to buy up players from teams that are in the way of them finnishing 4th.
barry from villa
aderbarndoor from arse

 

[Obnoxiousness]

I think things are looking quite positive for Man U.

Here's to a Michael Owen renaissance of epic proportions.

 

[aylee]

Can't see it....

You make a good case. In a way, I do want to see someone .... if not Villa, then anyone .... break up the top four's monopoly of the Chumps League goldmine. But it'll be a shame if it's Citeh who manage to do it just by sheer financial brute force rather than carefully building a team with judicious signings and local youth.

 

[Obnoxiousness]

Let's not forget Rooney. He's an Ace in Ferguson's hand. Lots of goals, lots of assists.

4-3-3 with Rooney, Owen and Berbatov would be an interesting combination.

I am mostly excited about Rooney and Owen playing together all the time.... and the England benefits. That's if Capello wants Owen, because England ain't done too bad without him since Capello took charge.

 

[Discordia]

Weak?

compared to who? Real Madrid?

Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal are all teams I'd rate as having a better first team now. Possibly Juve too.

2-0 isn't exactly ripped apart is it?

It could've easily been 4 or 5. A FK off the post, a couple of great chances for Henry & Puyol IIRC. They were lucky it was only 2-0. They were most certainly ripped apart, and by injured players to boot.

What are you saying?


Utd aren't good enought o win the league next year?

I would be incredibly surprised.

we're gonna finish mid table are we?

If you include 5-7 as mid table then I think it's possible (not likely though).

I'd bet £20 we're not out of the top 2 come the end of the season.

Fancy that bet?

i bet you don't

If I knew how to set up such a bet from South Africa and trusted folks on the intarwebs (nothing personal!) I'd go for that. I'd say they have a similar chance of top 2 as of 5-6. I'd say 3 or 4 is most likely. Arsenal and Liverpool most likely 1-2 (disclaimer: assuming Liverpool don't lose Alonso or Masch), with Chelsea a wildcard depending how Ancelotti goes.

I like your style .... .... but I think you go too far here. After all, none of the other top four teams have exactly set the transfer market alight so far this summer. Chelsea have only bought Zhirkov and could possibly lose Terry to Citeh. Liverpool have signed, erm, Glen Johnson and might lose Alonso. Arsenal's sole signing is Vermaelen - good player but unproven in the Premiership.

Well I'm basing my opinions for now on the teams as they are. I.e. Terry not going to Citeh, Liverpool keeping Alonso etc.

It's true that none of them have set the market alight, but they haven't been weakened either. United are the only top 4 team to have been weakened (thus far anyways). Given that they scraped the title last year, losing their best player and one of their best (if anyone says something stupid like Tevez doesn't score lots of goals I'm going to slap them) indicates...a worse result this time. Like 3rd or worse.

The real question next season will be whether Citeh's spending starts to pay off for them.

The question is more will they push into the top 4 already this year, or will they have to wait for next year.

Utd are weak.

Their first team is what I was referring to, if it wasn't clear. Yes, I think their new first team is weak.

but have a lot of decent players

Yes. Normally called squad players. I think their first team has too many squad players (because they have too many squad players compared to first team players in general), which results in a relatively poor first team.

Have you even a clue WTF your rambling on about?

As much as any of us, I'm guessing

Let's not forget Rooney. He's an Ace in Ferguson's hand. Lots of goals, lots of assists.

It's a huge season for him, isn't it? If this season is "meh" for him, it may be time to say he hasn't lived up to his potential.

4-3-3 with Rooney, Owen and Berbatov would be an interesting combination.

Berbatov in a 4-3-3? You must be joking.

I am mostly excited about Rooney and Owen playing together all the time.... and the England benefits. That's if Capello wants Owen, because England ain't done too bad without him since Capello took charge.

Players as one dimensional as Owen seem to have died, so I doubt they're coming back. Though at least he knows how to run into the penalty box, something Berbatov may want to ask him about.

 

[Discordia]

Oh, on another note. It really should be getting more play, but the EPL is fucked unless they fix their tax situation. Spanish teams can offer players far more at the same cost to the club. Given the weather differences, it's a no-brainer for players.

 

[Chimmay]

I love Man U so much, the greatest club of all time.

Ferguson the master, the greatest manager in the history of British football.
When are they going to learn? How many more times must we prove the doubters wrong, time and time and time again, always being the best . The best players, the best style, the trophies. Majestic football at its core.

Ferguson says the market is over inflated? Respect the guys opinion, he is the greatest afterall.

4-in-a-row…here it comes

 

[purplex]

Ah, faith. Admirable in a way, yet by definition delusional. United's team looks weak.

And you talk about delusion, muppet boy.

 

[purplex]

I love Man U so much, the greatest club of all time.

Ferguson the master, the greatest manager in the history of British football.
When are they going to learn? How many more times must we prove the doubters wrong, time and time and time again, always being the best . The best players, the best style, the trophies. Majestic football at its core.

Ferguson says the market is over inflated? Respect the guys opinion, he is the greatest afterall.

4-in-a-row…here it comes

Its United you fool

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

I love Man U so much, the greatest club of all time.

Ferguson the master, the greatest manager in the history of British football.
When are they going to learn? How many more times must we prove the doubters wrong, time and time and time again, always being the best . The best players, the best style, the trophies. Majestic football at its core.

Ferguson says the market is over inflated? Respect the guys opinion, he is the greatest afterall.

4-in-a-row…here it comes

Unlikely now you've lost two of the world's best strikers, I'm afraid.

I'm starting to think satay might do it this season.

 

[chriswill]

Unlikely now you've lost two of the world's best strikers, I'm afraid.

I'm starting to think satay might do it this season.

2 of the worlds greatest?

 

[purplex]

Unlikely now you've lost two of the world's best strikers, I'm afraid.

I'm starting to think satay might do it this season.

nah, hes too chicken

 

[revol68]

Unlikely now you've lost two of the world's best strikers, I'm afraid.

I'm starting to think satay might do it this season.

Tevez is not one of the worlds best strikers, he got 5 goals in the league last season and his general play was rather poor with bad decision making, awful first touch and he tended to slow up attacks.

Fergie had him for two seasons and obviously wasn't overly impressed.

 

[internetstalker]

If I knew how to set up such a bet from South Africa and trusted folks on the intarwebs (nothing personal!) I'd go for that. I'd say they have a similar chance of top 2 as of 5-6. I'd say 3 or 4 is most likely. Arsenal and Liverpool most likely 1-2 (disclaimer: assuming Liverpool don't lose Alonso or Masch), with Chelsea a wildcard depending how Ancelotti goes.

You could of least come up with a better excuse for ducking out on a bet and not putting your money where your mouth is then 'If I knew how to set up such a bet from South Africa'

jesus! its 2009 mate, it's easily done

All this along with the constant contradictions in your posts, says to me is you don't actually believe the rubbish your coming out with. Not surprising really, coz you really are talking rubbish, but you clearly all ready know that you troll


what part of SA you from bru?

 

[purplex]

Tevez is not one of the worlds best strikers, he got 5 goals in the league last season and his general play was rather poor with bad decision making, awful first touch and he tended to slow up attacks.

Fergie had him for two seasons and obviously wasn't overly impressed.

Tevez is a cracking player ya daft fecker, clearly too similar to rooney, and we need a range of styles. I wish him all the best. Lots of chances went astray last season because we had no poacher about to knock em in. Clearly fergie believes berbatov will yet shine, and we have the two italians and wellbeck coming through. Tevez wasnt needed.

 

[revol68]

If Discordia is white it elevates him from muppet, to muppet cunt.

Oh I wish Mel Gibson could kick his arse.

 

[revol68]

Tevez is a cracking player ya daft fecker, clearly too similar to rooney, and we need a range of styles. I wish him all the best. Lots of chances went astray last season because we had no poacher about to knock em in. Clearly fergie believes berbatov will yet shine, and we have the two italians and wellbeck coming through. Tevez wasnt needed.

He's a very, very poor Rooney, lacking the technique, vision and imagination.
He is still not one of the best strikers in the world, a decent CF but one that will be put in his place in the Argentina squad by Aguero.

Tevez is a decent player for sure but he is massively overrated, I thought this when he was at United and some fans seemed to be blind to his short comings and could only see his 'hard work' and I still think it.

 

[internetstalker]

He's a very, very poor Rooney, lacking the technique, vision and imagination.
He is still not one of the best strikers in the world, a decent CF but one that will be put in his place in the Argentina squad by Aguero.

Tevez is a decent player for sure but he is massively overrated, I thought this when he was at United and some fans seemed to be blind to his short comings and could only see his 'hard work' and I still think it.

I can see he doesn't have the imagination, vision & technique of Rooney, but he still has skills. I'm not blinded by his work rate but must say I don't agree with your opinion on him, who by all accounts now is a cunt as he is now a citizen.

I'd say more he is a poor Rooney, rather then a very. very poor Rooney IYSWIM

 

[revol68]

I can see he doesn't have the imagination, vision & technique of Rooney, but he still has skills. I'm not blinded by his work rate but must say I don't agree with your opinion on him, who by all accounts now is a cunt as he is now a citizen

Yeah I know you disagreed with my thoughts on him when he was at United too, but Fergie knows a thing or two about footballers and he obviously doesn't rate him too highly.

Also even if I thought Tevez was as good as he is made out, he still isn't the player United need, annoying as it is to say it I reckon Owen is, someone who will just get in the box and on to the end of something, rather than falling back into Rooney or Berbatov's space.

 

[purplex]

I can see he doesn't have the imagination, vision & technique of Rooney, but he still has skills.

Madskills in fact

I think peoples perceptions of Tevez are being tainted by last seasons performances, when he got few opportunities to shine and wasnt too happy, hes a class player whos done the business across many leagues, he'll be a different player this season.

 

[Obnoxiousness]

I have faith in Ferguson.

 

[Relahni]

Tevez is a poor man's dirk kuyt.

 

[Discordia]

You could of least come up with a better excuse for ducking out on a bet and not putting your money where your mouth is then 'If I knew how to set up such a bet from South Africa'

jesus! its 2009 mate, it's easily done

Not in my experience. How would you suggest it be done? PayPal is out, bank transfers get fucked up most of the time.

Regardless, I'm not making bets with random people on the internet I don't know. Why would I?

All this along with the constant contradictions in your posts, says to me is you don't actually believe the rubbish your coming out with. Not surprising really, coz you really are talking rubbish, but you clearly all ready know that you troll

Where have I contradicted myself? When you can't find anything, fuck off.

what part of SA you from bru?

Pretty sure it's in my location field. Cape Town, if not.

If Discordia is white it elevates him from muppet, to muppet cunt.

Why would you even bring up the color of my skin? Racist twit.

Tevez is going to make such fools of (some of) you people next season.

 

[kained&able]

Oh, on another note. It really should be getting more play, but the EPL is fucked unless they fix their tax situation. Spanish teams can offer players far more at the same cost to the club. Given the weather differences, it's a no-brainer for players.

surely the other way round! spain need to sort out thier tax situation ro be inline with us and stop giving the richers so many loop holes.


lol and anyone in the world being a poor man dirk kuyt.

I reckon man united will finish 2nd or third this year, aresnal are the ones at threat from man city(unlikely) or villa(really unlikely) not man united.

and revol you know fergie wanted to keep tevez right?


dave