revol68
what, fucking what?
Jesus, well that's even more mental, Fraizer Campbell has done nothing in the game so far and you are saying he is better than Owen?
Yeah obviously you know better than all the United set up.
Ferguson complains the transfer market is over-inflated
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Jesus, well that's even more mental, Fraizer Campbell has done nothing in the game so far and you are saying he is better than Owen?
Yeah obviously you know better than all the United set up.
tommers
Currently in investor / advisor mode.
Mind you it isn't as funny as them complaining about Real upsetting Ronaldo (a year ago) when they were doing the same to Berbatov.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
He should have sold Ronaldo to Real for £20m, thus not helping to inflate transfer fees!
I agree tho that Fergie didnt see a problem with all this when he could outbid anyone, now there are bigger players in the game he doesn't like it. Hope he chokes on his gum.
I agree tho that Fergie didnt see a problem with all this when he could outbid anyone, now there are bigger players in the game he doesn't like it. Hope he chokes on his gum.
The strategic fuck up was to play a wait-and-see strategy when they knew from the beginning of last season that:
a) They'd have 80 million in the bank to secure players with
b) Tevez was unhappy
while also, if they had their eye on the ball which they quite clearly didn't, being more than aware of the implications of a Florentino Perez victory on the back of several years of Calderon's financial consolidation.
But that's not even the worst bit.
The worst bit is that although United's attack has been severely diminished, the real problems for the near future lie in midfield where the declining Giggs and Scholes have been bravely soldiering on for two seasons.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
It cost West Ham £20m to play Tevez in 6 games, and it was worth every fucking penny!
revol68
what, fucking what?
No, being forced to pay higher prices means you are both the victim of inflated prices and the producer of such inflation.
I don't think the real inflation is caused by the actual top level fee's I think it is in the crazy prices being asked for players who have done fuck all.
Of course United have always suffered from inflated prices when they are interested in a player, goes with being a successful club, the only difference is that where before this involved some haggling with the other team now Madrid are willing to just throw whatever amount is asked at the situation and only a fool would get themselves into that bidding war.
I've got no idea why so many big clubs continue in publishing their transfer fees.
It's some sort of macho bollocks.
United would have been far better off if they had made the Ronaldo fee undisclosed but as it was everyone knew that a) they were minted and could therefore afford a big asking price and b) Real had already proved that they had more clout than United.
Really idiotic stuff.
It's some sort of macho bollocks.
United would have been far better off if they had made the Ronaldo fee undisclosed but as it was everyone knew that a) they were minted and could therefore afford a big asking price and b) Real had already proved that they had more clout than United.
Really idiotic stuff.
revol68
what, fucking what?
yes precisely but that £10million didn't come off the transfer fee, there is also the small fact that Tevez was pish this season, which is why the twat is off to the Middle Eastlands and not somewhere with Champions League football.
I love Revol and his frothing hero worship and blind loyalty to Ferguson. He's never even been to a Old Trafford, but here he is giving it the big old know-all approach , swearing merrily and even typing words like 'youse' to sound a little more like Fergie. Bless him.
Paying that much for Berbatov,.a near 30 year old with all the pace and effort of a 35 year old, tends to suggest that Fergie's blathering from a hypocritical position to me
Paying that much for Berbatov,.a near 30 year old with all the pace and effort of a 35 year old, tends to suggest that Fergie's blathering from a hypocritical position to me
revol68
what, fucking what?
How much did Rafa spend on that ugly wee troll that Berbatov helped to make look something like a footballer?
Berbatov is fucking class, only idiots can't see it.
Yeah they would know that they had got a tidy sum for him but knowing it was 80 million automatically makes that the asking price for someone like Ribery who is rated by his club at the same level.
That's obvious.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Thats madness though. When SAF paid £30 million for Berbatov it was for someone who had done slightly more than fuck all, and he paid that fee before this current madness. Valencia has done fuck all aside from having a good season for Wigan, and given subsequent events its questionable whether Real were actually in for him anyway (which might be thought to have pushed the price up).
As for United "suffering from inflated prices", thats a bit of a laugh given that SAF has a long history of tapping up / unsettling players so that they demand a move.
In any case, at least Real are genuinely going for the best players available to them and paying money accordingly. Citeh are the ones doing the damage in the long term, paying silly money (in both fees and wages) two seasons in a row now for players who are blatantly not worth it. If they do get Adebayor, what was the fucking point in paying £18 million for Santa Cruz? What was the point in £13 million for Bellamy?
internetstalker
Get naked!
The transfer market has been overpriced in England for Years
this isn't exactly new news is it?
example Darren bent went to Spurs for the same price Henry went to Barca for?
WTF is that about?
this isn't exactly new news is it?
example Darren bent went to Spurs for the same price Henry went to Barca for?
WTF is that about?
Yeah, thinking about it the City stuff is crazy. Getting Adebayor in will bring them up to nine strikers in total!
But I think the market has split in two now. There's the super dupa top notch players who Real almost made a clean sweep of this season and at that level the only players are really Real.
Then there's the next tier down where City are busily gorging themselves. The distortion in that market is probably more damaging in the long run.
revol68
what, fucking what?
Ah, isn't the little tryhard adorable. He's learnt everything he knows from watching on Sky Sports and jumping down on his armchair, like a proper expert.
Okay, so what exactly are you disagreeing with me here on? Do you think Fergie should have got into an unwiinable bidding war with Real? Should he have panicked and started offering crazy money for players he had no previous interest in? Is he not correct that the market has silly inflated prices (which is a statement of fact and intent not some hypocritical moral hand wringing exercise), did he not even say that United had benefited from this with the money from the Ronaldo deal?
Oh wait you actually don't have a point other than to be an ABU sad sack.
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Corrected that for you
revol68
what, fucking what?
What has inflated prices got to do with tapping up?
Fergie wanted Berbatov for a long time, he obviously thought he was worth the money, Fergie is scottish he doesn't spend for spending sake.
Like I said the real damage is being done by medicore noveau rich wankers like Citeh, Ronaldo for 80m is good value for Madrid and yeah they are going for the best, it's the likes of Tevez being given £200,000 aa week wage packets at City that is the problem and it is a problem not for the really big clubs but for the smaller clubs who will find it next to impossible to get value in the market.
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internetstalker
Get naked!
revol68
what, fucking what?
Veron was probably the best midfielder in the world at that point, it didn't work out but such risks are inherent, it means Fergie can't see the future, doesn't mean he shits out money for nothing.
The Djemba twins and Kleberson were also rated highly, whilst Bellion has had a good career in Ligue 1 (much like Forlan in La Liga), sometimes shit don't work out.
Still it's no 70 odd players in 4 years that Rafa has went through.
All managers have purchases that flop, Wenger too, that's the nature of going for potential.
I read four there. How about Quinton Fortune, Diego Forlan, Alan Smith, Liam Miller, and that's even before we start on the keepers.
Ferguson's transfer policy has often been hit and miss. The emergence of the homegrown generation to some extent hid that.
Why would it make the slightest of difference to the smaller clubs? They were never going to be in the position to buy an established Argentine international like Tevez, nor be able to pay his wages.
I doubt, either, that the stratospheric sums involved will effectively trickle down either. There's such a division between the big CL/oligarch teams and the rest already.
I doubt, either, that the stratospheric sums involved will effectively trickle down either. There's such a division between the big CL/oligarch teams and the rest already.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Because the tapping up actively prevents the price being inflated - if a player makes it abundantly clear to a club that he wants to move then the price doesnt usually spike.
revol68 said:
Perhaps, but what he thinks doesnt mean that Berbatov was worth it. As I said during last season, I could see why Tevez might have been pissed off because the implication from SAF was that Berbatov was a considerably better player than him.
revol68 said:
Tevez is a bad example though - in City's case he is probably one of their best signings since they were taken over. After all, he has won the CL, won the league twice, was one of your better players and has experience at the very top level. £25 million for him looks a lot better when you consider that they paid more than that for Robinho, are about to pay a similar fee for Adebayor, and paid a bit less than that for Santa Cruz.
revol68
what, fucking what?
It pushes the wages of all players up, Adebayor on £170,000 a week ffs, Ronaldo wasn't even on that at United.
£18 million for Santa Cruz plus fuck knows what wages?
And Tevez is overrated to fuck.
internetstalker
Get naked!
Non of them (apart from Veron) were big money transfers tho were they?
and Man U have never finished out of the top 3 since the Prem began. so although those players never set the world alight it's not that bad in the grand scale of things
