Feminism and a world designed for men

Discussion in 'theory, philosophy & history' started by friendofdorothy, Apr 28, 2019.

  1. polly

    polly Well-Known Member

    Probably a bit of a minor point (because not all women have babies and those that do are only pregnant for nine months-ish), but kind of relevant: we had those too, but they killed me when I was pregnant. I phoned Occupational Health and the man brought up this shitty, battered old office chair and said, we keep these for the pregnant women because those fancy chairs were not designed with them in mind.

    This is not something I've noticed, though I'm a woman so perhaps it goes over my head. But the people doing school runs at my kids' school are roughly 35:65 male to female, and no one seems to bat an eyelid. My husband does it once a week and no one talks to him at all :D Which is progress :thumbs:
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  2. chilango

    chilango Neither Westminster nor Brussels....

    If like to talk more about this on the other thread. But in short. I got, and get, no "wows".

    As a sahd I faced being ignored mostly but with a fair dose of suspicion and even hostility at times, and was excluded from from both Mums' things and Dads' things.

    I loved, and love, being able to spend so much more time with my daughter than many dads can, but socially it was a brutal experience.

    But this is all for the other thread.
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  3. quimcunx

    quimcunx protestant traybake

    not sure if this is the right place. I just googled guide to successful coparenting. It only brought up results for divorcees. So when a couple divorces men have to suddenly consider the split in childcaring responsibilities. A guide to successful coparenting might be useful before couples have kids, build up resentment then split up.
  4. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

  5. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    Yes she is going to write one and become enormously rich
  6. chainsawjob

    chainsawjob Kipping in the dunes


    I'm changing the battery on this and the release buttons either side are just a bit far apart for me to grip them and apply pressure easily. Lots of tools etc are designed with larger hands than mine in mind, and my hands are by no means small. They're designed for 'man-size' hands :mad:
  7. weepiper

    weepiper Jock under the bed

    The sales manager at my work bought all the workshops some new tools recently. I wrote a wishlist and got most of it, he also got us a couple of things I didn't ask for because he thought they were good including a tool which is for removing the cassette sprockets on a rear bike wheel. Usually you use a thing called a chain whip for this

    The tool he was excited about and thought we should all have is called chain whip pliers and looks like this


    He was disappointed to find it's basically useless for me as I can't hold it closed with enough force to use it successfully because it's designed for a much bigger hand span.
  8. S☼I

    S☼I campestral seneschal

    Liked for the interesting tool stuff, not the fact you can't bloody well use one! :facepalm:
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  9. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    I keep hearing from women of a certain age how difficult it is to get a job.

    I know there is a lot of ageism in the job market in general - but I wonder if there is any gender inbalance here too. Does anyone know where I can look for reliable source of stats on this?
  10. mango5

    mango5 Endeavour era

    from here Ageism in the workplace ‘starts at 40’ for women | Financial Times - but I can't tell where she gets the info from.

    This is a good and detailed report about the UK with lots of gender comparisons.

    European picture here Ageism and gender

    Also try this (rather dense, more general research and analysis than stats as such, but still...) Multiple Marginalizations Based on Age: Gendered Ageism and Beyond
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  11. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    Thanks mango5 will check those out.
  12. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    Met another woman yesterday who has been caught up in the moving the pension age trap. 64 years old ill /diabetic with no IT skills and still being hassled by the job centre - it is so depressing.

    Women have been majorly shafted by the short notice in moving the retirement age to make it the same as men. As well having earned a lot less in there lifetimes than the average man and less NI contributions and having much smaller pensions.

    I know the previous higher age for men was unfair to men but to change the systen so quickly has been a real disadvantage to women who had suddenly had to work and extra 5 years.
  13. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    from Ageism and gender
  14. mango5

    mango5 Endeavour era

    I'm not sure how those figures break down by country. Things like the pension age changes will complicate things. I know someone who resents her sister because she now has a pension and my mate - who is 18 months younger - has to wait an extra 5 years :mad: the resentment dates back to when the changes were announced. :(

    I remember being encouraged to set a retirement age of 50 years ago when employer contributions were introduced. I expect to have to do paid work until I'm 70, assuming suitable jobs are available and older women are more valued in the workforce in the future. If not, I may be too grumpy to be employable :hmm:
  15. pengaleng

    pengaleng Lil' J Pengele PhD. The Angel of Sesh Banned

    designed for men?? it's designed for able people tbh, I think this is just whining.
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  16. FabricLiveBaby!

    FabricLiveBaby! Live Baby Fabric!

    Today I went to lift weights on THE MANSTRENGTH EQUIPMENTS

    Because I got fat on antidepressants (and women get the prescribed more than men) I decided the best way to boost my metabolism + loose body fat is to weightlift and swim.

    Those machines are not made for my physique.

    While the weights are adequate I feel like a CHILD sitting in it, and it actually fucks up my posture more than just free weights. Because they are designed for MEN.

    I am a healthy 5'6 (so your "short man" size)

    (Short men obviously are also not gym goers in the design of weightlifting equipment.)
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2019
  17. pengaleng

    pengaleng Lil' J Pengele PhD. The Angel of Sesh Banned

    yeah I think it's just whining, yer right.
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  18. JudithB

    JudithB Well-Known Member

    We all know we will be living in a commune for grumpy older women moaning that we cannot reach the tops shelves
  19. mango5

    mango5 Endeavour era

    Not me. I'll be fitting my own kitchen and spending time with as diverse a range of folk as I can :)
  20. eoin_k

    eoin_k Lawyer's fees, beetroot and music

    You might need to get a sock-puppet account.
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  21. eoin_k

    eoin_k Lawyer's fees, beetroot and music

    Well said! I couldn't have put it better myself.
  22. pengaleng

    pengaleng Lil' J Pengele PhD. The Angel of Sesh Banned

    I hope thinking that up gave you a good dose of dopamine :cool:
  23. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

  24. ElizabethofYork

    ElizabethofYork Witchsmeller Pursuivant

  25. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    Everything about it. The world has gone insane
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  26. ElizabethofYork

    ElizabethofYork Witchsmeller Pursuivant

    Perhaps we should put that story on the World Politics forum.
  27. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    Can do. But I think it’s all about feminism. Control of women’s bodies, control of women’s behaviour, male violence against women, state violence against women. That’s all stuff that shows feminism has a looooong way to go before we can relax
  28. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    Read about this today Read an extract from Hormonal by Eleanor Morgan
    From the Metro's review today -
    apparently 'its estimated 90% of women suffer PMS, yet researches conduct 5 times as many studies into erectile dysfunction which affects only 19% of men'.
    'women are given fewer painkillers than men when they present in hospital and are offen given seditives instead'
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  29. mango5

    mango5 Endeavour era

    See also regular articles over the last 50+ years asking why we don't yet have a socially functional male contraceptive pill (or equivalent) when the medical science is within close reach.
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  30. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    Would you as a woman trust that they had remembered to take it?

    I suppose you could put it in their beer :)

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