Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Maybe because they're short-sighted and they meant to intimidate someone else without good reason (as if they're as ever a good reason).
Feeling safe in Brixton: better or worse?
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hatboy said:
If some homosexual or black was taunted while walking down Sutton High Street - is that misdirected?
I think it's about the same.
Things went REALLY shit in about200/01. Then they got better and have been more or less the same ever since with seasonal fluctuations, as BH said.
It depends what makes you feel unsafe. If you get upset by people shouting things at you then it's not an ideal place to live as it happens to most people most of the time.
I still think it's interesting that there are areas of the country where there is a lot of severe mindless violence -- crimes against the person -- between white people but it is not seen as being a problem, whereas crimes against personal property committed by ethnic minorities are made a big fuss about.
Personally I'd rather somebody nicked my phone for a reason - for the money - than beat me to a pulp for a mindless sadistic thrill.
I realise that in the case of the Editor's friend there was both violence and robbery and it does sound like a horrible incident. I sincerely hope this is not going to turn out to be a trend.
Things went REALLY shit in about200/01. Then they got better and have been more or less the same ever since with seasonal fluctuations, as BH said.
It depends what makes you feel unsafe. If you get upset by people shouting things at you then it's not an ideal place to live as it happens to most people most of the time.
I still think it's interesting that there are areas of the country where there is a lot of severe mindless violence -- crimes against the person -- between white people but it is not seen as being a problem, whereas crimes against personal property committed by ethnic minorities are made a big fuss about.
Personally I'd rather somebody nicked my phone for a reason - for the money - than beat me to a pulp for a mindless sadistic thrill.
I realise that in the case of the Editor's friend there was both violence and robbery and it does sound like a horrible incident. I sincerely hope this is not going to turn out to be a trend.
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
Orang Utan said:
Nah that's me... sorry I'll stop doing it.. didn't realise it was an urbanite i was hassling... 
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
IntoStella said:
To buy the latest trainers/or whatever else is "in" at the moment?
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
I don't think anyone is putting any sort of ethnic bias into this issue, really. Yobbish behaviour of any sort is a pain in the arse. I'd rather not be assaulted by anyone - whether for the sake of motiveless violence or for the purpose of robbery.IntoStella said:
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Minnie_the_Minx said:To buy the latest trainers/or whatever else is "in" at the moment?
Nah - of the three times I've been attacked in London only once was anything taken off me, the other two times it was just random violence. Once in Knightsbridge, once just off Upper St by the Church...
I know what IS means - even if it's for trainers there's a reason beyond simple enjoyment of violence.
dynamicbaddog
run for your life
I only go to Brixton occasionally, have'nt had too much grief there - once had someone shouting after me as I went from to the cashpoint to the Dogstar I started stepping up my pace and as I got to the safety the pub where there were other people about he left me alone. A friend of mine was waiting for a bus there last October and some kids came up to her poured petrol on her and set her on fire 
. Luckily people in a nearby cab office saw what was happening came running to her aid and there was no permanent damage done!
. Luckily people in a nearby cab office saw what was happening came running to her aid and there was no permanent damage done!Of course not, but I think people's general sense of safety (or lack of) is affected by prevailing, media-driven opinion. I'm simply saying I personally feel safer in Brixton than I would in some hick town where people get their head kicked in for being different. Like Croydon.poster342002 said:
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Suburban and large towns in county areas carry more fear than anywhere in London AFAIC, especially the threat of random violence...
Mr Retro
Beware hedgehogs
About the same for me too. I've never felt unsafe in Brixton in the 5 years I've been here but I'm pretty big so have never tended to be hassled anywhere <hope not tempting fate>.
The description of the mugging at the cashpoint has scared the shit out of me because of my wife.
The description of the mugging at the cashpoint has scared the shit out of me because of my wife.
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
I haven't noticed any fluctuations in Brixton over the last 5 years.. but I tend to travel around a lot on my bicycle so maybe I miss it all? I've also never felt threatened in Brixton. Just my personal experience like... I'm shocked that no one helped the guy who was mugged outside Barclays... on the occasions when I have noticed stuff going on in Brixton I've ALWAYS seen someone come to the rescue.
I remember one guy who tried to snatch someone's purse in the market being sat on top of by a number of hefty lady shoppers whilst the stall holders gave him what for!!!
On the bus the other day a clearly not all there woman (who had just been ejected from Woolworths) started trying to hit the girl sitting next to her and everyone got involved!!! She got off the bus in the end!!
I remember one guy who tried to snatch someone's purse in the market being sat on top of by a number of hefty lady shoppers whilst the stall holders gave him what for!!!
On the bus the other day a clearly not all there woman (who had just been ejected from Woolworths) started trying to hit the girl sitting next to her and everyone got involved!!! She got off the bus in the end!!
If you mean the P5 stop by the opticians in CHL, I live just around the corner and I'm very surprised I didn't hear anything about this. News usually travels fast. The nearest cab office is quite a long way away. Are you sure you've got the right bus stop? It wasn't the one up near the old Home James cab office in Loughborough Junction, was it?dynamicbaddog said:A friend of mine was waiting for a bus there last October and some kids came up to her poured petrol on her and set her on fire
IntoStella said:Of course not, but I think people's general sense of safety (or lack of) is affected by prevailing, media-driven opinion. I'm simply saying I personally feel safer in Brixton than I would in some hick town where people get their head kicked in for being different. Like Croydon.
Croydon's got more black teenagers than Brixton - you should get out more!
Saying that - a student of mine is in intensive care after being stabbed and hammered in Croydon last week.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
dynamicbaddog said:A friend of mine was waiting for a bus there last October and some kids came up to her poured petrol on her and set her on fire
Did they ever catch those little shits?
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
gaijingirl said:
Brilliant. Would love to have seen that.
dynamicbaddog
run for your life
IntoStella said:
Not really sure what bus stop she was on the main road bit of Brixton (i think somewhere near the academy - but can't say for sure,) heading towards Crystal Palace, the police said the stop she was at was one of the few in the area that has'nt got a cctv camera on it.
a few months ago, i got ou of the tube n walked up to the bus stop... some guy ran out of woolworths with a policeman not far behind... crossed the street (jumping over the barrier) n then disappeared into the pound shop... No ONE intervened or tried to make his escape any harder. The police soon shut the shop n cordoned off the area... dunno if the guy was caught/arrested/charged.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
dynamicbaddog said:
That'd be the No 2 stop - was it on the main high street or the end by the police station? I only ask cos the stop on the route in from Brixton road was where I was very gently and very scarily mugged without a hand being raised or weapon being pulled - demanding money with menaces I believe is the technical term.
dynamicbaddog
run for your life
noposter342002 said:
police went to her house and spoke to her then nothing much else was heard about it 
some of you might remember me posting about this two years ago... in my old flat off Brixton Hill, my flatmate (a girl) woke up one night to find someone in her bedroom... she screamed as loud as she could n the intruder jumped off the window n promtply left (making a big bang n probably injuring him/her self in the process). I obviously woke up n we called the police who said they'll come soon... They never showed up!They called back n said "Sorry, we're very busy" ... doing what? 
They did turn up a week or so later n get fingerprints.
They did turn up a week or so later n get fingerprints.
editor
hiraethified
Yes, but this particular thread isn't about that, as I made clear.hatboy said:
I'm trying to find out if people feel safer or less safer on the streets of Brixton.
If people wish to discuss gentrification for the zillioneth time, they're welcome to start yet another thread on the topic.
christonabike
Elm Park Bencher
I feel as safe as I ever did
I guess you get used to the place and have an eye for potential trouble
Best wishes to your pal, Editor
I guess you get used to the place and have an eye for potential trouble
Best wishes to your pal, Editor
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
wot christonabike said really...edited to add...although summertime is usually lairier than wintertime.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
poster342002 said:Misdirected in what sense?
If you're just walking along the street and some berk decides to start yelling insults at you - when you have not done or said anything to harm them... what's the point?
What Hatboy says is true. People do not do things for "no reason". People might do stupid, hurtful horrible things, but these are usually an expression of anger and hurt, at themselves, other people, the world in general.
