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Gmarthews said:
He had to go to New Zealand to escape from the Third Reich.
Marx along with many was blown away by Popper and certainly would get my vote.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Second/third rate against the prime mind... hehehehe... Btw, Poppy did start as a "marxist", so... :D
 
gorski said:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Second/third rate against the prime mind... hehehehe... Btw, Poppy did start as a "marxist", so... :D

I know, next he'll be suggesting Weber is an advancement on Marx, as opposed to some cunt who stole his best ideas, reified them into a static structure, deliberately misinterpreted marxs theory of history and became a gobshite apologist for the status quo.
 
Indeed Gorski he did, and then went on to be a Social Democrat, but his story is a long one, i will merely quote you no less than Isaah Berlin from 1963 in his introduction to his biography of Marx, saying of Popper's 'The Open Society and its Enemies' that it contained 'the most scrupulous and formidable criticism of the philosophical and historical doctrines of Marxism by any living writer' So a great mind indeed!
 
frogwoman said:
G-d

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was rand even jewish? either way she was a sad sad woman and derrida was just a maniac from what i heard although his books do sound entertaining.

Aye, Rand was both Russian and Jewish. Her fiction, like her 'philosophy', stinks.
 
Gmarthews said:
Indeed Gorski he did, and then went on to be a Social Democrat, but his story is a long one, i will merely quote you no less than Isaah Berlin from 1963 in his introduction to his biography of Marx, saying of Popper's 'The Open Society and its Enemies' that it contained 'the most scrupulous and formidable criticism of the philosophical and historical doctrines of Marxism by any living writer' So a great mind indeed!

Aye, if Isaiah Berlin says it, it must be true.

As for Hannah Arendt why did she continue her affair with Martin fucking Heidegger *after* the war.

And I've never forgiven her for her ignorant comments about Swahili.
 
Poppy had his moments but to put him up there, into the rarified air of the true greats... Ahem... weeeeelll... I don't think so, no... ;)

Besides, I think Marcuse is onto something when favouring "positive discrimination" of Left Radicals :D against the Right Radicals... :rolleyes: Me 3 can't see anything epochally novel, ergo "radical" in the right winger's "thinking"... :p
 
If you're ever in Vienna make sure you make it to the Jewish museum. Among other things it's full of Socialist Party election posters from the 20s and early 30s.

The Austrian SP had a gentile rank and file, but a lot of the leadership were Jewish.

And the rank and file stuck to their Jewish leaders to the bitter end, the fascist coup of 1934.

While the Socialist Protection League fought it out with the fascists in Vienna for three days, Karl fecking Popper ran away to safety.
 
Gmarthews said:
So a great mind indeed!

What about the problem that his own theory doesn't meet the test which he sets for useful theory?

Why are you more interested in showing off how many dead accademics agree with your choice than responding to thought out criticism?
 
Telos journal is a big pile of shit.

In the era Phil is citing, it was an ultra-pompous promoter of critical theory in the US.

It (or rather its editor and owner Paul Piccone) is now an ultra-pompous promoter of the ideas of Nazi philosopher (yes, really!) Carl Schmitt.
 
Idris2002 said:
Telos journal is a big pile of shit.

In the era Phil is citing, it was an ultra-pompous promoter of critical theory in the US.

It (or rather its editor and owner Paul Piccone) is now an ultra-pompous promoter of the ideas of Nazi philosopher (yes, really!) Carl Schmitt.

All true, but that Lyotard article is a classic. Have you read it?
 
In Bloom said:
Both of Jewish decent, but neither were of the Jewish faith.

But the salient point is that Rand's mother was Jewish, while Adorno's was not. You do know that's how it works, right?
 
phildwyer said:
But the salient point is that Rand's mother was Jewish, while Adorno's was not. You do know that's how it works, right?
Depends on how you define "Jewish" really, I suppose.
 
In Bloom said:
Do you regard "Jewish" as an ethnic group? Yes or no.

It is both an ethnic group--actually a group of ethnic groups--*and* a religion. One can be Jewish by virtue of either ethnicity or religion. But since Jewish ethnicity is matrilineal, Adorno was neither. He was, however, indisputably bald.
 
phildwyer said:
It is both an ethnic group--actually a group of ethnic groups--*and* a religion. One can be Jewish by virtue of either ethnicity or religion. But since Jewish ethnicity is matrilineal, Adorno was neither. He was, however, indisputably bald.


you numpty if you define it by ethnicity then it doesn't fucking matter what line it was on.

If you define it by the actual tenants of Judaism then it matters, but that would be a religious defnition.

Do you think Marx qualifies as Jewish?
 
phildwyer said:
It is both an ethnic group--actually a group of ethnic groups--*and* a religion. One can be Jewish by virtue of either ethnicity or religion. But since Jewish ethnicity is matrilineal, Adorno was neither. He was, however, indisputably bald.
Like revol says, if it's not a religious definition, then surely the matrilineal part doesn't come into play?
 
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