Fave; Radiohead Album (or EP)

[Firky]

Kid A was originally supposed to be a double album, but Kid A (CD1) is far more linear than Amnesiac, it flows better - insofar as some have called it an aural concept album (that was me actually lol).

Parts of amnesiac was actaully regarded years ago, Life in a Glasshouse (fucking AMAZING tune) was first penned down in about 1994, I've also got some stuff like how to dissapear completely on DAT tape from cat paw studios -

the bass line for TNA was written by thom when he was 12!!

There's shit loads of there, and more to come, I just think he has problems putting all his mad shit into one uniform album, and Amesiac was a bit of a mess with a few corking songs on it - LIAGH is fuckign awesome, did you ever see that on Jools Holland? I nearly came over thom's voice

 

[kakuma]

insofar as some have called it an aural concept album (that was me actually lol).

 

[Firky]

Yeah I know, it was back when I did that fucking website n shit init - fuck off right

even doug still tek's the piss lol

 

[girasol]

Been listening to OK Computer... Still sounds good too!

 

[kakuma]

radiohead encapsulate the meaninglessness of futility....

 

[Firky]

radiohead encapsulate the meaninglessness of futility....

OKC with out a doubt is, a fear of hte future and futility; the first three song the second track, paranoid android tells you what hte albums' going to sound like, the third is how'd they'd love to really see the world, the true beauty of it, (sub' homesick alien), and there's lots of tech, computer blips and blops, machine noise, modern noise... then they decide togo through a string of songs centered on themes of genuine love and tragic loss, exit music and let down are tied together perfectly, let down shows how you can be crushed like a bug and still dust ya self off and march on.

fitter, happier, proper mocks you, a computer voice taking the piss out of you and your pitiful daily existence.

I dunno what it is about, I tihnk its perhaps about the collision between us and the mechanical world or the clash between natural ambition and modern society's constraints

 

[Flavour]

I vote for Kid A. Don't ask questions.

 

[Firky]

Humphrey Lyttelton and Thom Yorke on Amnesiac is a masterpiece though, and it really comes to light on Jools Holland.

I should post it really, fucking awesome bit of jazz.

 

[bluestreak]

i love radiohead. they make great intelligent music, that really shouldn't be successful given how mediocre most big bands are. but i can't ever fault ok computer. it's as damn clsoe to perfection as a single record can be. the others are good too.

ok computer
the bends
hail to the thief
kid a
amnesiac
pablo honey


though i think on a technical judgement the bends should be further down. however the sheer beauty and emotiveness of that records lifts it above the cleverer though less moving records.

 

[Ich bin ein Mod]

Its amazing how much of a turnaround there's been wih Kid A, I remember when it came out and everybody was all "have Radiohead lost it", now its considered one of their best. And rightfully so.

 

[Jo/Joe]

People judged it wrongly, they either thought a: it wasn't the same sound as Ok Computer, or b: it's trying to be autechre, aphex or whatever. What it did was successfully incorporate electronic sounds into the radiohead world. Kid A is fantastic. Ok is probably better as a whole I suppose.

 

[tangerinedream]

Its amazing how much of a turnaround there's been wih Kid A, I remember when it came out and everybody was all "have Radiohead lost it", now its considered one of their best. And rightfully so.

Did it not sort of move them a bit? I don't remember 'the wire' and 'mixing it' type people paying much attention before Kid A.

 

[Firky]

Its amazing how much of a turnaround there's been wih Kid A, I remember when it came out and everybody was all "have Radiohead lost it", now its considered one of their best. And rightfully so.

Dunno, I thought it was pretty class, and I don't know why people were so suprised by the electronica experiment.

Meeting in the Aisle, and other B sides, even on the Bends hinted at their interest in this sound. OKC Is a christ knows how many layers of sound and production on it.

 

[Firky]

Did it not sort of move them a bit? I don't remember 'the wire' and 'mixing it' type people paying much attention before Kid A.

Kid A was a striclty nologo affair, with no advertising as such (mainly leaked mp3, blips, and rumours)... was kind of a fuck you to the industry they hate; I think they've got one more album left with EMI.

Quite a big fuck you too because the album still went to number one in over seventy countries.

 

[tangerinedream]

I don't know why people were so suprised by the electronica experiment.

Probably only cos they were a guitar band first and foremost and any mainstream or succesfull guitar band has a section of fans who think guitars are real music maaaan (tho radioshed probably less than a lot) and hate what they term as 'dance music'

 

[tangerinedream]

Kid A was a striclty nologo affair, with no advertising as such (mainly leaked mp3, blips, and rumours)... was kind of a fuck you to the industry they hate; I think they've got one more album left with EMI.

Quite a big fuck you too because the album still went to number one in over seventy countries.

mmm, and it made em credible with a whole new group of people I think. Not that I'm suggesting that was their intention at all. Why don't they hand in an album of ambient sounds recorded on an old tape cassete and free themselves from EMI's chains?

 

[Firky]

mmm, and it made em credible with a whole new group of people I think. Not that I'm suggesting that was their intention at all. Why don't they hand in an album of ambient sounds recorded on an old tape cassete and free themselves from EMI's chains?

Contract.

Music industry is a *rife* with rip off contracts, malcolm mclaren took something like 70% of all the sex pistols takings, and if you leave their circle... They'll send you to Hades through the courts.

 

[tangerinedream]

Contract.

Music industry is a *rife* with rip off contracts, malcolm mclaren took something like 70% of all the sex pistols takings, and if you leave their circle... They'll send you to Hades through the courts.

Does it limit what they release? I don't want to get into a my fan boy obsession vs yours at all but if you look at the output of GYBE! and side projects as well as many many guest appearences Radiohead seem pretty quiet. I'd be really interested to here them do something really abstract or as individuals explore the directions they want to. I presume they are under obligation not to 'moonlight' (I know some of gybe!'s side projects are a bit shit but it's good to see an explosion of music based arround the diverse tastes of one group.)
Couldn't they release a load of shit though, cobbled together in a few days? Then be out of their. Or is the contract a time limited one... I presume they'll release their own stuff rather than sign for someone else when the contract is up.

 

[Firky]

Does it limit what they release?

Yup. Six albums, and four EPs IIRC. and they all have to be killers and warrant millions of pounds, of promo, touring, etc... the success of OKC gave RH some freedom to do what they like, and they did, but they've still got their wings clipped.

There's also HUNDREDS of radiohead songs out there, with all the trickery and magic of GYBE (although sounding different), I suggest you look into Jonny Greenwood's stuff - as he's the one who pushes radiohead into his bizarre electronic stuff

Ignore the awful who reviews it has:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000DZGGU/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2_cp/202-5957404-2255055

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00015N4NO/qid=1117405841/202-5957404-2255055

he's also done a score for the bbc orchestra (iirc he's head of bbc classical and contempory music), and that sounded like violions made out of metal - fucking wierd... arty farty rubbish like, but i like it

" Film director Simon Pummell's movie Bodysong collages footage taken from a century of cinema and home movies to present the story of a life from birth to death; a life that is unique but is never extricated from communal human experience or a collective shared memory. Jonny Greenwood, Radiohead's guitarist (though a reluctant axe plucker of late--this album finds him in his other role, that of sonic landscape boffin as showcased on Kid A and Amnesiac) provides the soundtrack, the contents of which merge the fields of chamber music (with the Emperor String Quartet), electronica, post-rock, avant-garde, modern jazz and whatever takes his fancy into vignettes which are unpredictable, chaotic, joyous, desperately harrowing and utterly at the mercy of circumstance, much like life itself. While the works of Talk Talk ("Laughing Stock"), Godspeed You Black Emperor and the spirit of Pink Floyd's celestial psychedelia are subconscious touchstones, Bodysong couldn't be anything other than an archly experimental record made by a member of Radiohead, the world's most pre-eminent member of the boffin-rock awkward-squad. From "Splitter" (manic metropolitan jazz with shrieking trumpets and skidding double-bass lines) to "Peartree" (gloomy church organ) and "Clockwork Tin Soldiers" (icy xylophones, contorted synths, cuckoo clocks and Kraftwerk), this is music that will doubtlessly be enhanced when experienced in tandem with the film's images and yet deserves to be appreciated in moody isolation. --Kevin Maidment"

(fan boy obsession... did their fuckin' website news, mate )

 

[tangerinedream]

Yup. Six albums, and four EPs IIRC. and they all have to be killers and warrant millions of pounds, of promo, touring, etc... the success of OKC gave RH some freedom to do what they like, and they did, but they've still got their wings clipped.

There's also HUNDREDS of radiohead songs out there, with all the trickery and magic of GYBE (although sounding different), I suggest you look into Jonny Greenwood's stuff - as he's the one who pushes radiohead into his bizarre electronic stuff

I was thinking of Jonny Greenwood with the side project work - I'll have a listen to this. I remember seeing them on telly arround about kid A time and watching him run arround stage plugging stuff in and out and he looked really happy!
You'll not get me into Radiohead - I've tried - I really have. I've heard every album at least 10/11 times and I like individual songs, but not enough to say the whole record blows my head off. I'll be interested to hear this Jonny Greenwood stuff though.
What do you make of ASM zion? To me they are nearer to radiohead than GYBE! who have a totally different dynamic IMO

 

[Firky]

What do you make of ASM zion? To me they are nearer to radiohead than GYBE! who have a totally different dynamic IMO

'This is our punk rock, thee rusted satellites gather and sing', and 'he has left us alone but shafts of light sometimes grace the corners of our rooms', are excellent.

can't get away with 'born into trouble as the sparks fly upward', perhaps because i don't listen to much of this sort of music anymore, or radiohead actually!

bored of it... but it'll come back... always does

got sick of []pusher and aphex, for ages, but with ultravisitor and autechres new releases am getting back into it again

basically i go through mood swings in music

 

[tangerinedream]

'This is our punk rock, thee rusted satellites gather and sing', and 'he has left us alone but shafts of light sometimes grace the corners of our rooms', are excellent.

can't get away with 'born into trouble as the sparks fly upward', perhaps because i don't listen to much of this sort of music anymore, or radiohead actually!

bored of it... but it'll come back... always does

got sick of []pusher and aphex, for ages, but with ultravisitor and autechres new releases am getting back into it again

basically i go through mood swings in music

Aye, I've been listening to funk and dub whilst typing this stuff. Have to agree 'born into trouble.....' is weaker than other two, but for the recorded ambient sound and could've moved mountains which is one of the best things ever. I wouldn't bother trying 'horses in the sky' it's not in the same league as the first three. 'Pretty little lightening paw EP' is much much better. I pray to god both GYBE! and Mogwai show some bravery and do something different w/ their next releases - but the first two releases from GYBE will always be what I return too to climb into that little safe place in my brain when all is wrong with the world.

Efrim Menuck and Thom Yorke both play piano and sing in funny voices and write very strange lyrics. That was my link between them. Worthy of a slot on national radio with seamless links like that I reckon...

mood swing away mate!

 

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Humphrey Lyttelton and Thom Yorke on Amnesiac is a masterpiece though, and it really comes to light on Jools Holland.

I should post it really, fucking awesome bit of jazz.

Is that the Radiohead special from 2001? If so, it was an hour of unprecedented brilliance, and I don't think it's ever been repested or released in any format.

'Pyramid Song' on TOTP (from when it went straight in at #5 - ) was also a classic, and I believe quite a frightening experience for the hired audience, or whatever they are...

 

[kyser_soze]

Equal first place between OKC and Kid A (when I first heard Idioteque I actually thought it WAS an Aphex track!!)

Best band this country has produced EVER IMVHO.

Oh yeah, and anyone who has a copy of the 'Later' performance I will gladly perform demeaning sexual acts with animals for a copy on DVD...

And don't tell me to go to bittorrent cos I can never get the damn things to work...

 

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Equal first place between OKC and Kid A (when I first heard Idioteque I actually thought it WAS an Aphex track!!)

Too right - same with me and 'Kid A' (the title track).

 

[poului]

Too right - same with me and 'Kid A' (the title track).

Well if you listen to the track "Kid A" and then "Flim" by Aphex Twin you'll see it borders on plagiarism.

 

[Graymalkin]

I'm missing most of their albums but the 'I might be wrong: Live recordings' is stellar. 'Com Lag' Is also solid, I can't really decide which I like better.

 

[Orang Utan]

Radiohead seem to be the only good rock band in the world at the moment - I vote OK Computer but their later stuff is great too - was in a club dancing to Anthony Shakir (techno/house DJ) at the weekend - he played Idiotheque and it was one of those magic clubbing moments.

 

[JE:5]

I used to fucking hate them till I heard Kid A.

 

[Here we go]

Equal first place between OKC and Kid A (when I first heard Idioteque I actually thought it WAS an Aphex track!!)

Best band this country has produced EVER IMVHO.

Oh yeah, and anyone who has a copy of the 'Later' performance I will gladly perform demeaning sexual acts with animals for a copy on DVD...

And don't tell me to go to bittorrent cos I can never get the damn things to work...

I definitely taped it at the time - or my mate did. I'll have a look and see if I still have it.