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Farmers' market in Brixton

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by Planty, Aug 19, 2009.

  1. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    no it's not, it is entirely dedicated to a separately branded event that advertises itself as an authentic market simply because it sells from stalls. If they were proper market stalls they wouldn't ringfence their customers by trading on a day when the real market- the one that Nour are being forced out of- is shut. They'd trade in competition with others, setting up in direct competition with other stalls selling similar produce and trading on the combination of quality, price and service. That's what markets are, that's how they work.

    This isn't a real market, it's just a branding exercise and I do not get why you're giving them such preferential treatment. If they're friends of yours then just say so and I'll shut up, I don't have much problem with you or anyone else helping their mates, but if they're not then explain how they're different to the Ritzy or any other commercial enterprise with a marketing department that wants to advertise on here.
  2. tarannau

    tarannau Mongolian eyed

    A very fair point Newbie.
  3. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I've already asked them to cut back on the cut and paste and get involved with the discussion here.

    I've given my opinion of the matter and no amount of cheap insinuations about them being 'friends of mine' is going to change what I think. They're not my friends, I don't know anyone involved with them at all, and I've never met anyone from their organisation.

    I'm sorry we don't agree, but you are free to lobby other mods who may agree with you and override my opinion (as they have done several times in the past).
  4. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    I wasn't trying to insinuate anything, simply asking, but I'm sorry if you were offended by the question, that wasn't my intention.

    nor am I lobbying anyone, I'm posting on an open thread.

    I've seen what you've asked of iloveroman. I'd like to ask them something different, that they join in with discussions elsewhere on these boards but leave this thread well alone. Their company details, address, phone number, website and all, are on plenty of their previous posts and they can be contacted in all sorts of ways if anyone is interested in getting their newsletter or discussing their business with them.
  5. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    So you don't want the person who knows more about the market than anyone else posting on a thread about the market, even when people here have asked questions that he's best placed to answer?
  6. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    I'm happy with this:

    2. No advertising of any kind. We are not interested in hearing about your company/website/club/product/new song/gig/glowing rave underpants. This is a non-profit, community discussion forum, not a free advertising resource and offenders will be booted off.

    Adverts for gigs/events/parties You MUST notify a moderator and receive permission before posting any sort of promotional thread. No exceptions. Note that charity or free events are the most likely to be accepted. Next come those for which there is a big discount for Urban75 members. If you're trying to plug a straightforward commercial event, don't bother, no matter how many people you think might be interested.

    Signature files/avatars are also disabled and putting in links to your own website with every post isn't permitted either: we want to hear your opinions, not see the same link with every post!

  7. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    He did just that.

    Would you like to answer my question now, please?
  8. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    funnily enough that's the least pertinent clause, given the thread was started by an ordinary poster. Certainly ranks far lower than "No advertising of any kind. We are not interested in hearing about your company" and "If you're trying to plug a straightforward commercial event, don't bother, no matter how many people you think might be interested." plus "putting in links to your own website with every post isn't permitted either".

    Why don't you answer the question I've asked a number of times: why are these particular business operators given preferential treatment?
  9. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    We've always had a policy of letting some people advertise here if they ask and we feel that it's appropriate.

    Oh, and for the record, I don't think I've received more than one complaint about this thread in all the time it's been running.
  10. tarannau

    tarannau Mongolian eyed

    Blimey, it's going all circular. In retrospect it was probably a mistake to cut LFM such slack, but everyone likes a good vegetable and the sheer spamminess of the whole thing gradually grew ever more apparent. It's not been heavy duty electronic flyposting all over the place by any means.
  11. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    Really? I must say I've never noticed, can you point to what other businesses are allowed to advertise in a similar way.
  12. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I've already asked them to cut back from the cut and paste-athons and start contributing, but it seems that's not enough for newbie. He wants them banished off this thread forever.
  13. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    no it hasn't, but until I started asking questions most of the posts on this thread this year were adverts.
  14. tarannau

    tarannau Mongolian eyed

    Fair point, but let's see what happens from here on in.
  15. Londonfarmers

    Londonfarmers Member

    Hi everyone
    I thought you might like to know that we're being joined at the farmers' market this Sunday by Brixton based food bloggers Salad Club who are going to be there twice a month.
    I'm also talking to Brixton Windmill about getting them involved in a real bread day. We love having community groups at the market; I've been trying to get a Dr Bike event but have so far failed in interesting any local bike shops or groups. If you have contacts or know someone who might like to be at the market please let us know. Thanks!
  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I trust this post meets with everyone's approval?

  17. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    sell, sell, sell

    it's an advert from someone who posts nothing but self-serving adverts. what's to dislike?
  18. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    so now their sell, sell, sell approach to feathering their own nests extends to stealing bicycle parking spaces for their advertising boards and dumping a blackboard in the middle of one of the busiest bits of pavement.

    Reasonable, legitimate businesses don't behave like that. Why do they think it's acceptable for them to do so?
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  19. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    It does cover up that snot green bike a bit though which is a good thing ;)
  20. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I can get worked up about a lot of things, but this is not one of them.

    The market was really busy this morning. It's a great addition to Brixton.
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  21. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    yep: plenty of stalls and customers. bagged some veg.
  22. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    fair enough, you don't care. They have their market, you can go there if you want, but does that mean we should all ignore their antisocial advertising? I doubt I'd be the only one complaining if this was being done by KFC or Mcdonalds, why cut these people slack?

    I tried to park my bike yesterday, all the spaces outside the tube were full, one of them with an advert, positioned in such a way that it stuck out into the pedestrian walking space. I went up to the ones outside KFC, all were full, one of them with an advert, again sticking out.

    There aren't enough bike parking spaces in the middle there, it's simply wrong that greedy entrepreneurs should seek to line their own pockets by using them for advertising.

    When I wandered back I noticed just how many people had to manoeuver around the blackboard that had been placed right in the middle of a very busy bit of pavement. There are other blackboards around- this is not the only business who think their commercial gain overrides everything else- but they're the only one that put a big board just outside the tube, to get in the way of the maximum number of people.

    Don't those with visual impairments, mobility restrictions, who are elderly, pushing buggies, dragging small children or shopping matter? Is it fair or reasonable that the greedy and inconsiderate should behave in such an antisocial way? If they were grown up enough to actually apply for permission for their adverts they'd be refused, for the simple and obvious reason that there are already plenty of places that they can advertise. Of course, they'd have to pay for that and as they've shown by the way they've spammed these boards, they're only interested in No 1.

    so come on, Londonfarmers, I know you've never posted anything here that isn't advertising, but I'm asking you to justify your behaviour.
  23. uk benzo

    uk benzo أنا ليس أمريكي

    I'm sorry, maybe I've missed something.. but have Londonfarmers murdered someone in Brixton?
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  24. ajdown

    ajdown Posting in this thread

    There's more than enough bike parking, certainly a lot more bike spaces than free car parking in the middle of Brixton that's for sure.

    How about getting something useful like seats for people to sit down and watch the world go by? That wide bit of tube outside the charred remains of Foot Locker is ideal, but nope it's clogged up with bike racks.
  25. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    there aren't enough bike parking spaces, that's why they're always full or overfull, but I agree about seats.
  26. ajdown

    ajdown Posting in this thread

    If there were some car parking spaces then people wouldn't need to resort to having to ride a bike.
  27. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    I know this might come as a shock to you, but a lot of people can't afford/don't want to run a car and therefore cycle. Shocking I know :eek:

    And the only viable place where there could have been a car park now has a temporary ice skating rink on so you're a bit late. Not sure I remember you getting involved in the campaign to keep a parking provision when it was happening.
  28. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    You can get about 15 bike parking spaces in the space of one small car space. Do the math!
  29. ajdown

    ajdown Posting in this thread

    You can carry a lot more shopping in a car than you can on a bike or even on the bus.
  30. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Not everyone needs to carry half a ton of shopping. Besides, there's supermarket car parks if bulk-buying is your thing.

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