far-right themes in popular music

[In Bloom]

what i mean is that whilst there is no explicit Fascist/political content in a lot of the over-intellectualised ideas around people like Boyd Rice, there is still a might is right / will to power element that ultimately can end up looking very similar.

Ah, I get you.

 

[isvicthere?]

Front 242 supposed to be dodgy meaning ( don't know what )

And D.A.F. again the initails are some kind on Nazi thing ( it's in German so I don't know )

Wrong wrong wrong! Deutsch-Amerikanische Freundschaft is an ironic title. It means "German-American Friendship". Their most famous lyric is: "Deutschland, Deutschland alles ist vorbei" (in a play on "Deutschland Ueber Alles" it means: "Germany, Germany it's all over") - i.e. hardly what you would call "Nazi" sentiment!

 

[nino_savatte]

nah, McLaren just used it as something else to co-opt. Jamie Reid did all the intellectual footwork.

True. McLaren got to Paris too late and missed the big events.

 

[Dubversion]

this Datacide article is very interesting

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

Deutsche Amerikanische Freundschaft- nothing too dodgy

But was it a code

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[MysteryGuest]

I thought DAF was the name of a truck company.

 

[goldenecitrone]

I thought DAF was the name of a truck company.

I thought it was half a Stalinist ex-poster.

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

A DAF link, certainly ambiguous I'd say
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and touched on here with a Laibach feel

 

[Pigeon]

Deutsche Amerikanische Freundschaft- nothing too dodgy

Aye DAF= German American friendship:- and quite explicitly anti-fash with tunes like "Kebabtraume", pillorying the (then) German right's fears that the country was being overrun with Turksh guest workers. Not to mention "Der Mussolini", stickng the boot in on Reagan's comments that the SS dead were as much "victims" of Nazi ideology as the dead of Auschwitz.

 

[Pigeon]

But was it a code

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Why's that a DAF baner?

I was into DAF pretty big style back in the day: the only "Nazi" link about them was precisely that they were -and, more to the point, sang in- German and so, in terms of Anglo-American pop hegemony, inevitably sounded "Hitlerian". Being of a post-war generation, that legacy was obviously something they were conscious of and unable to escape from, so they commented on it directly in songs lie "Der Mussolini", making their disgust with their country recent history plain, whilst also slyly pointing out the homoerotic nature of a lot of fascist imagery.

Not dodgy, not fascist. Bleedin great.