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Fez909

toilet expert
I got quite nostalgic for the days of Diego Costa in the fantasy football, when I saw that in a friendly against Real Madrid the other day he scored 4 times and got sent off.

That wasnt my attitude when he was actually in my team. The endless red card risk jabbing at my brain lol. If he returned then I'd probably have nightmares about him headbutting the pitch-side VAR screen!
I still make that 18 points:

4 x.4 points for his goals = 16
2 appearance points for 60+ minutes = 18
-3 for a red = 15
+3 bonus (probably?) = 18

Incidentally, Costa never received a red in the Prem.
 

Fez909

toilet expert
Cheers for the list. It makes me realise how little I've ever watched many of those players. Plus, in the years that I've actually tried to watch some football games properly on telly since getting into this fantasy game, there are still many aspects where I think I do not understand what I am watching. I can spot shifts in momentum and that sense that a goal is coming. I can appreciate some cool moves. But a lot of things just go over my head or I dont pick up on properly at all, even with replays. I guess I can probably spot the most blatant dives and the most obvious of fouls, but there is a big grey mess in between these extremes that I cannot often decipher, its a good thing I'm not in the VAR control room!

Is Vardy a bit like Zaha, in that many of the times they go down are not dodgy dives, but genuine as a result of deperate moves from opposition players who have been beaten by their pace and ability?
That list is anyone who was booked for diving. The 'clever' ones won't appear on it.

I don't think Vardy dives...?
 

elbows

WoeTimer
Incidentally, Costa never received a red in the Prem.
My memory disagrees most strongly. I will investigate.

That list is anyone who was booked for diving. The 'clever' ones won't appear on it.

I don't think Vardy dives...?
Well as I was saying, there are a bunch of things that I dont think I yet get about football, some of which will cause me to use terminology wrong I suspect. I'm including players that go down in the area, but thats including any times where they go down because they've been fouled, not just dives.

Anyway thanks for clarifying what the list is made of. Spurs havent been lucky with such decisions! From what I've seen of pre-VAR ref decisions about such matters on televised games of recent years, some people get penalised for diving when they actually werent at all!
 

elbows

WoeTimer
Bah sometimes I really hate the extent to which google is fixated with the most recent events when searching.

I suppose there are several things that could be triggering my Costa memories. I think he was sent off in an FA cup game once that then lead to him being suspended for some league games, which would have pissed me off if I had him at the time. But I still feel like there was something else too, possibly bans for number of yellows accrued within a certain period.

All the same, I suppose its not a revelation to me that my mind will sometimes play tricks on me!
 
Has Mason Mount been added to the Ffl yet? Four goals in preseason and a player that Lampard obviously thinks reminds him of a young Lampard.

Ooh. He has. 6m....
 

S☼I

ifyalikeitthenushouldaputadonkonit
I think my Fantasy Football pre-season is too intense. Spent quite a bit of Sunday afternoon working out how many playing minutes it took players per point, then dividing that into their value to see the results. Does that sound like it has value as a selection method? :D
 

elbows

WoeTimer
I think my Fantasy Football pre-season is too intense. Spent quite a bit of Sunday afternoon working out how many playing minutes it took players per point, then dividing that into their value to see the results. Does that sound like it has value as a selection method? :D
It sounds similar to one or two of the stats that certain websites like to churn out. Certainly valid as part of a balanced diet of stats!
 

Fez909

toilet expert
I think my Fantasy Football pre-season is too intense. Spent quite a bit of Sunday afternoon working out how many playing minutes it took players per point, then dividing that into their value to see the results. Does that sound like it has value as a selection method? :D
You could take it one level further by looking at the actual value of the player above the base cost of a player in that position.

For example, the cheapest defender is £4m meaning for your defense, you have to spend £20m minimum. The cheapest forward is £4.5m, etc.

This makes someone like Robertson's cost effectively +£3m over the baseline. Whereas Aubameyang is +£6.5m over baseline for a forward.

Changes the 'value' of players a fair bit if you look at this, IMO. Might mean you choose a different distribution of funds between def/mid/attack.
 

S☼I

ifyalikeitthenushouldaputadonkonit
Yeah, it's interesting that the "best" players using my method are the ones you'd expect; the ones most likely to get you points, even when value is factored in, are players like Kane, Salah, Sterling, TAA. That's why you pay the big bucks. But it HAS been interesting and useful in at least providing food for thought when choosing between the rest; Firmino or Vardy, Wilson or King, etc.

On top of that we have VAR which might influence whether a player is a taker of penalties.

Premier League Penalty Takers 2019/20 - FantasyBet Blog
 
If you want interesting, which we all do.....

I'll offer up £50 as a prize to the league winner. That should focus some minds.
 

S☼I

ifyalikeitthenushouldaputadonkonit
Fuck it, I'll do the H2H if there's a space.

Can't believe the number of league entries. Surely not all Urbanites.
 

marty21

One on one? You're crazy.
I have been doing a prize money fantasy league - bloke at work organises it - it's in the scum dream team alas - £20 in - 1-3 get money - last season , the winner got £240 I think.

I wasn't the winner :(
 

Lord Camomile

Lemonade socialist
Yeah, I've never really understood prizes. Being better than everyone else should be prize enough. It's the only thing that really matters, after all.
 

Numbers

an ting!
What do youse think of the young Mason Greenwood fella for Man U? he's in great pre-season form and I've read Ole may start with him, and he's cheap as chips. I have him in as 3rd choice striker and it frees up nice funds for elsewhere.

I'm not in the U75 league so don't mind talking about my squad :)
 

S☼I

ifyalikeitthenushouldaputadonkonit
What do youse think of the young Mason Greenwood fella for Man U? he's in great pre-season form and I've read Ole may start with him, and he's cheap as chips. I have him in as 3rd choice striker and it frees up nice funds for elsewhere.

I'm not in the U75 league so don't mind talking about my squad :)
He's seventeen.
 

The39thStep

Well-Known Member
What do youse think of the young Mason Greenwood fella for Man U? he's in great pre-season form and I've read Ole may start with him, and he's cheap as chips. I have him in as 3rd choice striker and it frees up nice funds for elsewhere.

I'm not in the U75 league so don't mind talking about my squad :)
If Lukaku goes they'll buy another foward possibly Dybala. if Lukaku stays they will have to play him. Rashford and Martial will also be above Greenwood in the pecking order. Sure he'll get some minutes during the season but I am not convinced that he will even be 3rd choice at Man Utd.
 

S☼I

ifyalikeitthenushouldaputadonkonit
He looks a great prospect - genuinely both-footed, good shot, speedy, very skillful. But IMO just a "watch this space" this season. Few eye-catching cup outings.
 

SpackleFrog

Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
What do youse think of the young Mason Greenwood fella for Man U? he's in great pre-season form and I've read Ole may start with him, and he's cheap as chips. I have him in as 3rd choice striker and it frees up nice funds for elsewhere.

I'm not in the U75 league so don't mind talking about my squad :)
I think he could get some minutes but he's owned by too many players to go up in value very much.

I have him at the moment but considering Nketiah who is older, just as likely to get minutes and not as well owned, or Andone who may well be 1st choice for Brighton since Murray is now 36.
 

SpackleFrog

Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
If Lukaku goes they'll buy another foward possibly Dybala. if Lukaku stays they will have to play him. Rashford and Martial will also be above Greenwood in the pecking order. Sure he'll get some minutes during the season but I am not convinced that he will even be 3rd choice at Man Utd.
They'll play him on the wing if they play him.
 

S☼I

ifyalikeitthenushouldaputadonkonit
Curious to see the price of Arsenal's new signing Pepe, if indeed they've actually signed him yet, and whether he's counted as a mid or striker. He scored a load of goals as a winger last season, plays like Kanu with pace.
 

SpackleFrog

Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Curious to see the price of Arsenal's new signing Pepe, if indeed they've actually signed him yet, and whether he's counted as a mid or striker. He scored a load of goals as a winger last season, plays like Kanu with pace.
I reckon they'll have him as a midfielder - could be a lowish price too. Worth a punt.
 

tommers

Not just a little bit of a slag, but a total slag.
Cheers for the list. It makes me realise how little I've ever watched many of those players. Plus, in the years that I've actually tried to watch some football games properly on telly since getting into this fantasy game, there are still many aspects where I think I do not understand what I am watching. I can spot shifts in momentum and that sense that a goal is coming. I can appreciate some cool moves. But a lot of things just go over my head or I dont pick up on properly at all, even with replays. I guess I can probably spot the most blatant dives and the most obvious of fouls, but there is a big grey mess in between these extremes that I cannot often decipher, its a good thing I'm not in the VAR control room!

Is Vardy a bit like Zaha, in that many of the times they go down are not dodgy dives, but genuine as a result of deperate moves from opposition players who have been beaten by their pace and ability?
Sorry I'm catching up with this thread. But no. Vardy is a diving little prick.

HTH.
 
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