fake suicide bomber was a drug dealer?

[rebel warrior]

If we substitute 'Jewish' for 'Muslim' or 'Islamic' then some rather interesting things happen:

sadly true which is why it's important that people on the left are not seen as weak or hypocritical in dealing with Jewish extremism.

 

[tbaldwin]

Where did he say he 'hated the west'?

Do you think he likes the west then? Seriously?
Your right i'm making an assumption but its not exactly unreasonable,is it?

 

[rebel warrior]

Also:

... the guy goes to the protest dressed as a mad islamic bomber?

becomes:

so the guy goes to the protest dressed as a mad jewish bomber?

 

[JHE]

But, oddly enough, the 'slamist nut did not go dressed as a Jewish anything.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

what is intresting is that he wasn't shot 11 times in the head yet clearly looked like a suicide bomber... so it's only the one who covertly look like terrorists the met are concerned with then not the obivous looking terroists...

 

[tbaldwin]

sadly true which is why it's important that people on the left are not seen as weak or hypocritical in dealing with islamic extremism.

Notice the word is Islamic not muslim rebel?

If we all go around changing each others words,will we all win the arguement?

 

[rebel warrior]

But, oddly enough, the 'slamist nut did not go dressed as a Jewish anything.

Becomes:

But, oddly enough, the jewish nut did not go dressed as a Muslim anything.

 

[JHE]

what is intresting is that he wasn't shot 11 times in the head yet clearly looked like a suicide bomber... so it's only the one who covertly look like terrorists the met are concerned with then not the obivous looking terroists...

Indeed, the Toy Town suicide bomber was treated very well by Mr Plod, unless you think it is mistreatment to attempt to stop him being photographed by the press.

 

[rebel warrior]

Notice the word is Islamic not muslim rebel?

If we all go around changing each others words,will we all win the arguement?

I was just trying to show how racist so much of the debate on these boards and elsewhere is at the moment.

If when you use 'Islamic', 'Muslim' you can't substitute another religion eg 'Judaism' or 'Jewish' without sounding like a Nazi then there is a problem with what you are saying.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Also:



becomes:

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=149407

 

[JHE]

What did he sell, other than Toy Town Jihad?

I've just heard the answer on the TV. Apparently, he was convicted of flogging cocaine.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I was just trying to show how racist so much of the debate on these boards and elsewhere is at the moment.

If when you use 'Islamic', 'Muslim' you can't substitute another religion eg 'Judaism' or 'Jewish' without sounding like a Nazi then there is a problem with what you are saying.

The london tube bombers: were they jewish, or islamic?

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Indeed, the Toy Town suicide bomber was treated very well by Mr Plod, unless you think it is mistreatment to attempt to stop him being photographed by the press.

no not really jsut point out that their trigger happyness doesn't seem to extend to potential threats which look real only assumed ones which aren't

 

[JHE]

no not really jsut point out that their trigger happyness doesn't seem to extend to potential threats which look real only assumed ones which aren't

Plod worked out that the lad was in fancy dress. Just as well, eh?

 

[Lock&Light]

Notice the word is Islamic not muslim rebel?

I am basically in agreement with you, but I would use the word 'islamist' as I have nothing against islam beyond my disgust for all religions.

 

[Blagsta]

Also:



becomes:

Since when did extremist Jews go on suicide bombing missions?

 

[Blagsta]

I was just trying to show how racist so much of the debate on these boards and elsewhere is at the moment.

If when you use 'Islamic', 'Muslim' you can't substitute another religion eg 'Judaism' or 'Jewish' without sounding like a Nazi then there is a problem with what you are saying.

What if you were talking about Zionist extremism? Would that be OK?

 

[Pigeon]

I think Bush and neoconservatives who echo fascists by talking of a clash of civilisations and the need for a new 'crusade' - coupled with a racist media - are the poeple who are to blame for the demonisation of Islam.

Sorry, but this is far too mealy mouthed. The "fascists" that wankers like Bush & co echo include the likes of bin Laden - and the arsehole on Newsnight last night, refusing even to acknowledge that women appearing in public with thier heads uncovered could even be "proper" Muslims.

 

[Pigeon]

I was just trying to show how racist so much of the debate on these boards and elsewhere is at the moment.

If when you use 'Islamic', 'Muslim' you can't substitute another religion eg 'Judaism' or 'Jewish' without sounding like a Nazi then there is a problem with what you are saying.

But the examples you give don't make anyone sound like a Nazi, no matter how shrilly you try to argue otherwise. If you want to find people who do sound like Nazis, try today's Hamshari .

 

[Pigeon]

The london tube bombers: were they jewish, or islamic?

RASCIST!

 

[dylanredefined]

Well since sucide bombers dont genreally advertise their prescence
I guess the police figured he was just part of the demo so gets to do what he likes .

 

[TremulousTetra]

yes, the Moslems are not a race, they are many races which is why Griffin will probably get off with the charges. However, I think it's pretty hard to deny that politically Moslems are the new Jews, especially for the fascist.

Mr Griffin explains that "the only aim" of the strategy is to help destroy the Cameron-led Tories and "clear the political space for something better ... it would only take 400 individuals who care about saving Britain from partly Tory-created evils such as the EU and the Islamification menace to join those 200 at-risk constituency organisations, and the Conservative party can be killed off."

 

[tbaldwin]

yes, the Moslems are not a race, they are many races which is why Griffin will probably get off with the charges. However, I think it's pretty hard to deny that politically Moslems are the new Jews, especially for the fascist.

Thats rubbish rpm3. The Jews in the 30s didnt have any groups blowing up innocent people and were not so intolerant of western liberalism etc.
Both youand rebel warrior have swallowed the line that muslims are being persecuted discriminated against like the Jews once were but its not true.
Islamaphobia is not something just whipped up by the media, it's based on people's own experiences of living with intolerant islamists,who are extremely sexist and negative.

 

[mutley]

Thats rubbish rpm3. The Jews in the 30s didnt have any groups blowing up innocent people and were not so intolerant of western liberalism etc.

You never heard of the King David Hotel? (may have been 40's but doesn't change the point.) The Stern Gang were social workers were they? (Though that was zionists). Deir Yassin? Beirut 1982?

Both youand rebel warrior have swallowed the line that muslims are being persecuted discriminated against like the Jews once were but its not true.
Islamaphobia is not something just whipped up by the media, it's based on people's own experiences of living with intolerant islamists,who are extremely sexist and negative.

Is it fuck. 99.9% of people never have and never will meet an actual member of Hitzt-but-Tahir (spelling??), Al Muhjiroun or any of the tiny number of people who went on that protest in London. Many have never met a Muslim, and those that have it will usually be a workmate.

The numbers on the demo were probably about 0.1% of the number of muslims on the big anti-war demos. This tiny minority then gets front page coverage, questions in the house etc etc. The aim is to increase Islamophobia.

 

[TAE]

Oh this is just great:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4687996.stm

Arrest

Meanwhile, one man has said he and a second man were arrested during the London demonstration as he attempted to mount a counter-demonstration.

The man, named only as John, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that he was arrested as he handed out leaflets with the cartoons printed on them.

The Metropolitan Police said two men were arrested on suspicion of breach of the peace, but no further action was taken.

Publication of one of the cartoons by a Welsh student newspaper has prompted the Cardiff students' union to apologise for any offence caused.

The editor and three student journalists from Gair Rhydd newspaper were suspended.

WTF?

I'll never understand how the cops decide who to arrest.

 

[rebel warrior]

Was the 'counter demo' organised by the AWL?

 

[mutley]

The fake bomber's being taken back to prison cos he was on bail. Surely a candidate here for 'most ill-advised attendance on a demo 2006'. And it's only february.

 

[jæd]

The fake bomber's being taken back to prison cos he was on bail. Surely a candidate here for 'most ill-advised attendance on a demo 2006'. And it's only february.

Well... If you walk around in a London protest clearly recognisable and dressed as a suicide bomber then I wouldn't imagine you'd the brightest of people...

Glad the idiots locked up before he does something more stupid...

 

[tobyjug]

Maybe he was on drugs when he thought it was a great idea to put on a suicide bomber outfit?

Given the very real risk of getting shot in the head, he must have been on something mind altering.

 

[pk]

Tobyjug - given the fact that you've been caught blatantly telling porkies on the thread about Brian Paddick, don't you think it would be a good idea to rejoin the debate and refute some of your comments, since they've been proven to be an absolute load of codswallop?

Just an idea, like.