Faith No More vs Nirvana

[upsidedownwalrus]

and FnM on the basis of 'Introduce Yourself' - one of my all-time faves. Never really got into the later stuff with Mike Wotsisface.

A toughie.

Oh come on now. You aren't surely saying that Introduce Yourself was their best one?

 

[g force]

Ouch. Tough one indeed. FNM would edge it, IMHO.

Bit like: would I prefer to be stabbed or shot

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Oi - Alice in Chains were fucking great!

Hmm. They could be great (e.g. Down in a Hole, Would?) and they could be overindulgent cack (e.g. Godsmack).

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Just like Nirvana, then.

Wrong. Alice in Chains were indeed just basically a metal band. Nirvana were pop-punk-new wave...

 

[kained&able]

Very def not a grunge band.

didn't even kow it was a band name. i mean(and i dont really mean it) the lumber jack shirts.

dave

 

[fogbat]

The uniform wasn't all that flattering.

Beat me to it

 

[lights.out.london]

Bit like: would I prefer to be stabbed or shot

lol

Beat me to it

Kept Millets camping shop in business with those lumberjack shirts.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Well, it depends on what's meant, as you said earlier, groups that are mile apart are dragged under the umbrella. I can't see the similairity in groups like say Tad or Alice and Chains, beyond them both being guitar based. All depends on what we mean by the term and who it covers.

For me, 'grunge' really meant a sort of raw, punky, garagey sound infused with metal. Alice and Chains, Soundgarden, etc didn't fall into that at all. Grunge for me was epitomised by Bleach, and most of Mudhoney's stuff.

 

[kained&able]

Grunge for me meant an early 90's seattle band + immitators.

dave

 

[Iam]

Wrong. Alice in Chains were indeed just basically a metal band. Nirvana were pop-punk-new wave...

AIC were decent, Nirvana were shite.

 

[butchersapron]

For me, 'grunge' really meant a sort of raw, punky, garagey sound infused with metal. Alice and Chains, Soundgarden, etc didn't fall into that at all. Grunge for me was epitomised by Bleach, and most of Mudhoney's stuff.

I'd go along with 'raw, punky, garagey sound' but it's the metal bit i have the problem with. All the original Seattle bands namechecked Sabbath sure, but they never ever sounded anything like them. I think the metal bit was added later by people trying to jump on the cash-wagon, an attempt to get metal (or soft rock)bands reassigned to a more lucrative genre.

 

[The Groke]

Is Gary Glitter credible?

As a pop artist? Arguably, depending on who you spoke to.

As a baby-sitter? Probably not.

 

[The Groke]

Hmm. They could be great (e.g. Down in a Hole, Would?) and they could be overindulgent cack (e.g. Godsmack).

I liked 90% of their output - Godsmack included!




"Unplugged" is one of my all-time fave albums - raw, moving, affecting - just fucking great.

 

[CharlieAddict]

No it's not. SG are shit soft rock.

 

[internetstalker]

although they were very influential I would not say they were one of the most important bands ever. and if that clown kurt kobain was still alive no one would really give a shit about them today.

then why i sthe drummer of the band so succesfull?

 

[fogbat]

then why i sthe drummer of the band so succesfull?

By that logic, Krist Novocelic should regularly be in the charts, too.

 

[Iam]

then why i sthe drummer of the band so succesfull?

Because he didn't write the sixth form lyrics?

 

[danny la rouge]

then why i sthe drummer of the band so succesfull?

Because lots of people buy his records.

Next.

 

[fogbat]

Bloody hell - Krist has aged very badly compared to Dave Grohl

 

[internetstalker]

By that logic, Krist Novocelic should regularly be in the charts, too.

but his bands (that have basically been shite pub bands) since have all been over hyped purely coz of him

 

[internetstalker]

but to say if Cobain was still alive noone would give a shit about him is a bullshit statement

 

[slainte]

Faith no more 1 nirvana 0...simply because they weren't that original but thanks to steve albini aka big black and then nirvana producer..who suddenly sounded like an extension of "songs about f**king" note the ** as the I don't want this flagged whilst posting....)

There was rumors that insectide was totally steve albini output re badged... and considering that I have big blacks album I concur to the "oververtly" familar sound...except he did it with them big black over 10 years earlier...

Faith No more..yes mike patton is excellent his output is superb and diverse compared with one trick wonder one sound over and over nirvana...no contest...

 

[butchersapron]

Sorry slainte but nothing Nirvana ever recorded sounded anything like Songs about fucking - even at BB's softest and Nirvana's rawest. Never even close.

 

[Cheesypoof]

Faith no more 1 nirvana 0...simply because they weren't that original but thanks to steve albini aka big black and then nirvana producer..who suddenly sounded like an extension of "songs about f**king" note the ** as the I don't want this flagged whilst posting....)

There was rumors that insectide was totally steve albini output re badged... and considering that I have big blacks album I concur to the "oververtly" familar sound...except he did it with them big black over 10 years earlier...

Faith No more..yes mike patton is excellent his output is superb and diverse compared with one trick wonder one sound over and over nirvana...no contest...

dont be absurd, Nirvana were totally original and deserve all the praise they (eventually) got. They *exploded* from the Seattle scene, putting it on the map.

 

[butchersapron]

...and this is just as wrong. But with more historical ignorance.

 

[Iam]

dont be absurd, Nirvana were totally original and deserve all the praise they (eventually) got. They *exploded* from the Seattle scene, putting it on the map.

I expect Green River will be overjoyed to hear this.

 

[christonabike]

Mike Patton, on his own, is better than Nirvana

 

[Cheesypoof]

...and this is just as wrong. But with more historical ignorance.

The scene was burgeoning with lots of bands but Nirvana put Seattle on the map. I was into all that music at the time, and Nirvava may have been preceeded by a few bands but they exploded out of that 'scene' and were the biggest band of that scene too no doubt.

 

[Cheesypoof]

I expect Green River will be overjoyed to hear this.

i remember all them other bands too, like Mudhoney and so on. Nirvana internationalised Seattle, more than 'Green River' thats for sure.

 

[butchersapron]

Well, you're wromg on that as well, but i was referring moe to "Nirvana were totally original" - maybe they were the first ever bass/guitar/drum band to write about personal issues in a mildy agrresive way. It's up in the air really isn't it?