'Fairytale' censored - is nothing sacred??????

[kained&able]

Ah good stuff. Altyhough now im clearly going to call him a racist as he only wants to sensor homophobic content in rap and bashment. You just can't win!


dave

 

[ovaltina]

an Amy Winehouse song where she asks if a man is gay ....

which one's that?

 

[ovaltina]

Radio wrong just announced they're doing a u-ey on this...

 

[sam/phallocrat]

THey just announced on R1 that they're not gonna censor it after all, loads of complaints apparently . . .

 

[gentlegreen]

which one's that?

You should be stronger than me
You been here 7 years longer than me
Don't you know you supposed to be the man,
Not pale in comparison to who you think I am,

You always wanna talk it through - I don't care!
I always have to comfort you when I'm there
But guess what I need you to do? - stroke my hair!
’Cause I've forgotten all of young love's joy,
Feel like a lady, and you my lady boy,

You should be stronger than me,
But instead you're longer than frozen turkey,
Why'd you always put me in control?
All I need is for my man to live up to his role,
Always wanna talk it through - I'm ok,
Always have to comfort you every day,

But that's what I need you to do - are you gay?

I've forgotten all of young love's joy
Feel like a lady, and you my lady boy

He said 'the respect I made you earn -
Thought you had so many lessons to learn'
I said 'You don't know what love is - get a grip!' -
Sounds as if you're reading from some other tired script

I'm not gonna meet your mother anytime
I just wanna grip your body over mine
Please, tell me why you think that's a crime

I've forgotten all of young love's joy
Feel like a lady, and you my lady boy

 

[Snufkin!]

I like the Chris Moyles show.

 

[ovaltina]

Yuk! Naughty on quite a few levels.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I bloody wish they would change the lyrics, I've been hearing that song non-stop every fucking christmas forever

also, change the tune

 

[Gromit]

THey just announced on R1 that they're not gonna censor it after all, loads of complaints apparently . . .

Power to the people. Now if only Radio One ran the country as the government completely ignore protests (Iraq war cough cough).

 

[gnoriac]

But instead you're longer than frozen turkey,

WTF does that mean?

 

[invisibleplanet]

It's a big mistake to have drawn attention to it like this - the censored words will gain in 'use-points' and R1 listening yoof will start making a thing out of using the censored words.

 

[skyscraper101]

Who's starting to think there was some clever bit of PR used to generate this 'non-story' by er.. *cough* Warner Music to promote one of their biggest selling singles year-on-year.

 

[N_igma]

Who's starting to think there was some clever bit of PR used to generate this 'non-story' by er.. *cough* Warner Music to promote one of their biggest selling singles year-on-year.

Conspiraloon!

Well, it deserves to get to number one I think. Only Christmas song that was actually any good!

 

[lontok2005]

Only Christmas song you can listen to any time of year. I love the anger and bitterness iof the argument that makes up that song. A real love song.

 

[Gromit]

Who's starting to think there was some clever bit of PR used to generate this 'non-story' by er.. *cough* Warner Music to promote one of their biggest selling singles year-on-year.

More likely to be by *cough cough* Chris Moyles to get the song he wants to number one rather than some xfactor poop he doesn't like.

 

[Looby]

I thought it was fucker not faggot anyway.

 

[longdog]

I can't stand the bloody tune much the same as I can't stand any song that's been played to death for eight weeks a year for the last twenty years. Editing it was just plain silly.

It's quite ironic that R2 still occasionally play REM's "What's The Frequency Kenneth?".... Last line... "I never understood, don't fuck with me."

 

[scifisam]

This faggot quite happily sings that song and doesn't think it's going to encourage anyone to use faggot as an insult. Glad R1 agreed, finally. They did well publicising the song with that, didn't they?

WTF does that mean?

I presume 'longer' is Winehouse getting down wit da yoof and using the word 'long' meaning 'boring, awful.' Except I've only ever heard kids say 'more long,' not 'longer.'

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

well they've un-banned it now. What a marvellously cackhanded radio one pre christmas non-story twat fest.

 

[White Lotus]

Wouldn't it be funny if one of our gay posters changed their tagline to "cheap lousy faggott"?

 

[Kidda]

queers, the poor relations poor relation.



would we be having this debate if the word was paki?

 

[Pavlik]

sluts might get offended

or junkies even

There'll be no good insults left soon

 

[William of Walworth]

Congratulations!!

Got a far as post 9, page one .... and we have proof of moron status!!

[only took 5 posts on the equivalent efestivals thread ]

Didn't the head of the CRE recently say that the PC brigade are getting a bit over the top? IIRC an article in The Sunday Times said something about how, if it is acceptable to celebrate Hannukah, Kwanzaa, etc. then refusing to celebrate Christmas was unacceptable by reason of the same 'inclusion argument' that is used for the other celebrations.

I think this decision by the BBC is insane.

But that doesn't stop me also thinking that anyone, no exceptions, who (non pisstakingly) uses the phrases 'PC', 'PC Brigade' and 'Political correctness'** is automatically and de facto, an original-thought-free, derivative-notioned, Daily Mail cliche recycling, card carrying MORON!

**You missed the extra bonus moron-cliche-points you'd have got for saying that 'PC' has 'gone mad'


'Political Correctness' -- MY ARSE (R, TM)
Any Urbanite, and anyone, who EVER uses that phrase seriously, should be fucking well ashamed of themselves.

 

[William of Walworth]

Political correctness gone mad I tell you. I'm going to get out my green pen and write to someone important.

Paul Dacre awaits your frothfoaming letter as we post ...

 

[William of Walworth]

Oi! that green is offensive, you are not allowing for anyone who is red/green colour blind. You are not being inclusive of those with this disability and are therefore guilty of being NON-PC!

(if you are not PC could you be a laptop? It's the best pun I can think of for now, sorry)

Take your 'humour' back to the Golf Club to share with some Telegraph and Express reading Tories, you braindead arse.

Too stupid to see that bluestreak was (in part) taking the piss out of YOU?

We have a Jim Davidson-wannabe in our midst ...

 

[19sixtysix]

If a song is offensive then it shouldn't be played not just adjusted.
R1 do make an arse of themselves with this sort of thing.
I remember Mike Read refusing to play Frankie goes to Holywood.

The Pogues however have a grand reputation of tell the tales of downtrodden communites. My favourite Pogues song is a fine example

THE OLD MAIN DRAG

When I first came to London I was only sixteen
With a fiver in my pocket and my ole dancing bag
I went down to the dilly to check out the scene
But I soon ended up upon the old main drag

There the he-males and the she-males paraded in style
And the old man with the money would flash you a smile
In the dark of an alley you'd work for a fiver
For a swift one off the wrist down on the old main drag

In the cold winter nights the old town it was chill
But there were boys in the cafes who'd give you cheap pills
If you didn't have the money you'd cajole and you'd beg
There was always lots of tuinol on the old main drag

One evening as I was lying down by Leicester Square
I was picked up by the coppers and kicked in the balls
Between the metal doors at Vine Street I was beaten and mauled
And they ruined my good looks for the old main drag

In the tube station the old ones who were on the way out
Would dribble and vomit and grovel and shout
And the coppers would come along and push them about
And I wished I could escape from the old main drag

And now I'm lying here I've had too much booze
I've been shat on and spat on and raped and abused
I know that I am dying and I wish I could beg
For some money to take me from the old main drag

 

[William of Walworth]

Didn't the head of the CRE recently say that the PC brigade are getting a bit over the top? IIRC an article in The Sunday Times said something about how, if it is acceptable to celebrate Hannukah, Kwanzaa, etc. then refusing to celebrate Christmas was unacceptable by reason of the same 'inclusion argument' that is used for the other celebrations.

I see you're abroad so don't believe what you read in the Murdoch press. I've yet to come across a true instance where someone has refused to celebrate Christmas for "PC" reasons.

Spot on.

'The Phoney 'War on Christmas' " -- why 'Christmas being banned' stories are made up media bollocks

Do read the above link dessiato, maybe learn the meanig of the words 'media scepticism', and cotton on. Or do you prefer to believe what you want to believe? If the latter, there's plenty of myth-manufacturers making up sensationalist shite about 'PC' out there in the right wing/Tory media who're delighted to oblige you.

You're a bit of a gullible idiot aren't you?

 

[Pavlik]

Among the best gigs I ever witnessed was the pogues in brockwell park, sometime in the 80's?
There were people swinging about in the trees and it felt like everyone was pissed and singing all the words, including every member of the band.
Excellent memories.

 

[William of Walworth]

from wiki

In journalism, Green Ink is (humorously) supposedly the major identifying characteristic of written correspondence from self-aggrandising pedants, cranks, charlatans and eccentrics.
Although no psychiatric equivalence with the preceding terms should be inferred, it is also used to refer to unusable correspondence originating with readers who are mentally ill.
Regardless of the colour of ink used, it is common to refer to correspondence of any kind (including email and webpages) as being in "green ink", so long as it broadly fits the following identifying characteristics:

• Stridency
• Impertinence
• Unreasonableness
• Unrealism
• Fancifulness
• Obsessiveness

Common comorbid characteristics include IRRELEVANT CAPITALISATION, overuse of exclamation marks!!!!!!!! and veiled threats or warnings directed at the recipient.
Religious mania is a frequent characteristic of green ink communication.
Writers and correspondents who fit this general profile are referred to as Green Inkers or as members of the Green Ink Brigade (GIB).
Contents

[hide]

• 1 Reported encounters with the GIB
• 2 Possible origins
• 3 See also
• 4 External links

//
[edit] Reported encounters with the GIB

• "THE "green ink brigade" is well-known to editors. It consists of people who send in copies of the paper, covered in scribblings and rantings. Every mistake, every contentious point, is ringed or underlined, more often than not in green ink."

Their letters go on for page after page in a tidal wave of green bile. I once had a letter from a green ink regular, signed Paul the Apostle, telling me I was "the spawn of the horned devil and a wicked whore from hell". I am, in fact, the spawn of an electrician and a postlady from Middlesbrough and I've thus far kept Paul the Apostle's letter from them for fear of causing a domestic incident. Don't ask me why these people choose green ink. They just do." (Unnamed columnist, The Northern Echo, 2006) [1]

• "Anyone who makes a living from broadcasting will get more than his share of GIB letters. Anyone who dares to write a book about the English language had better change his address if he’s not prepared to be swamped. Yes, it can be profoundly irritating. A Green Inker will always spot the mistake. So will many other readers but the GI will write to tell you about it. And if any GIs are reading, I know that the first edition of my last book awarded a distinguished academic the Noble Prize. What I don’t know is how it slipped past me, my editor, the proof reader and on into infinity. But it did. Thank you for pointing it out — but please, no more letters."

(John Humphrys, 2006) [2]

[edit] Possible origins

"Green Inkers" are (in popular imagination) frequently obsessed with supposed conspiracies and plots, so it may be no coincidence that Sir Mansfield Cumming, the first chief of MI6, would only write memoranda and communcations in green ink - a tradition that has been continued by all subsequent placeholders [3]
In harmony with the frequent megalomania exhibited by green inkers, green ink was also the way in which the guardian of an underage Roman Emperor would sign his charge's correspondences. [4].

[edit] See also

• Color psychology
• Crackpot
• Crank (person)
• Obsessive
• Rant

Brilliant!

I'm a bit 'green inker' myself in my DETERMINATION to stamp out the use of the phrase 'political correctness' by anyone with a brain capacity greater than that of an amoeba.

But I've scarcely ever met a 'PC' obsessive who isn't a right wing wanker. True fact ...

The worst thing about this BBC Pogues story, besides the inherent stupidity of tinkering with the lyrics, is that it serves to fuel the flames of these 'PC' obsessed morons.

Have you ever encountered an anti-'PC' ranter who ISN'T a moron?

 

[William of Walworth]

As for them censoring you slut on junk or whatever the line is thats even sillier since when have you been able to say slut?


dave

I thought I knew the song really well, but I hadn't really picked up on (or had forgotten? ) that line ....