Fahrenheit 9/11 wins best movie at peoples choice

[nino_savatte]

Read the thread less.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

 

[ViolentPanda]

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

He thinks he's being witty, substituting the W for an L. Then again, someone who thinks that reading a Louis L'Amour book in 2-3 hrs is unusual (it isn't, they're about 80-120 pages long) would see that kind of childishness as wit.

 

[nino_savatte]

He thinks he's being witty, substituting the W for an L. Then again, someone who thinks that reading a Louis L'Amour book in 2-3 hrs is unusual (it isn't, they're about 80-120 pages long) would see that kind of childishness as wit.

Oh right, how thick of me! The sparkling wit of leadhead strikes again.

His choice of reading material is revealing isn't it?

 

[Jo/Joe]

Or to put it in easier terms for you, anarchist and trot's...... hate the us the same.

There have been threads where people here specifically state what they like or dislike about the US. They do not, on the whole, hate the US itself. They just hate the ignorant fucking idiots it produces who trample on others. Again, you misuse what evidence is available, and blow it out of proportion to suit you weak, narrow minded arguments. Classic straw man?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Oh right, how thick of me! The sparkling wit of leadhead strikes again.

His choice of reading material is revealing isn't it?

Yep, as my missus said when reading this thread over my shoulder (she's dead nosey!), that's on par with boasting about reading "Mills & Boon" romances and other less than original pulp-type fiction. The literary equivalent of "easy listening".
Typical that it's the sort of "rugged individualist with a gun" stuff that misanthropes thrive on.

Jimmy Carter is a big L'Amour fan. Wonder of that makes peebs a "commie"?

 

[nino_savatte]

Yep, as my missus said when reading this thread over my shoulder (she's dead nosey!), that's on par with boasting about reading "Mills & Boon" romances and other less than original pulp-type fiction. The literary equivalent of "easy listening".
Typical that it's the sort of "rugged individualist with a gun" stuff that misanthropes thrive on.

Jimmy Carter is a big L'Amour fan. Wonder of that makes peebs a "commie"?

I guess even the incredibly macho Hemingway is something of a 'commie' too in his eyes. Having said that, Hemingway is a bit too classical, rather something more contemporary with bigger text and fewer pages (and maybe pictures) - yeah, Mills and Boon!

Peebs a 'commie'! Nice!

 

[TomUS]

I enjoy right wing idiot's rant:

No, I didn't watch the Oscars. Never have, never will. But, I did catch that fat ass Commie Pig's Oscars rant on CNN today. I've never seen any of his "documentaries" or "movies" either and after hearing this idiot carry on today, I'm know I won't bother. It's too bad that he had the kind of forum that he did to blather on about his hatred of the United States and it's leadership. But, you know, free speech is a constitutional right, something Mr. Moore wouldn't enjoy in Iraq, or Iran or wherever the hell he'd rather be. I'm no big fan of George W. myself but he is our President and deserves respect.

How is disagreeing with US foreighn policy = hatred of the us?

 

[pk]

LMFAO @ pbman - his feeble excuses.

Slagging off Bowling for Colombine without actually having watched it at all!!!!

I always knew he was a stupid retarded little gimp, but this is priceless.

Well done pbman - you've excelled yourself.

Now please keep firing your little pistols, one is bound to explode in your face eventually.

 

[Dilzybhoy]

As for F9/11, I wasn't surprised that he didn't mention that when the Taliban came to power in 1996, their rise was cautiously welcomed by Bill Clinton, who said they might be a force for stability (which you need for piplines, of course).

Yes he did. Or rather it was made clear that america and the rest of the west did

 

[pbman]

LMFAO @ pbman - his feeble excuses.

Slagging off Bowling for Colombine without actually having watched it at all!!!!

I always knew he was a stupid retarded little gimp, but this is priceless.

Well done pbman - you've excelled yourself.

Now please keep firing your little pistols, one is bound to explode in your face eventually.

Who said i didn't watch it?

 

[pbman]

I enjoy right wing idiot's rant:

How is disagreeing with US foreighn policy = hatred of the us?

It doesn't. I know lots of republicans that dissagree, but they still love their country.

Be he is way over the line, in his blatant proganda.

This from noted lefty hitchens should bring you up to speed.

To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability. To describe this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that would never again rise above the excremental. To describe it as an exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of "dissenting" bravery.

And the film contradicts itself all over the place.

In a long and paranoid (and tedious) section at the opening of the film, he makes heavy innuendoes about the flights that took members of the Bin Laden family out of the country after Sept. 11. I banged on about this myself at the time and wrote a Nation column drawing attention to the groveling Larry King interview with the insufferable Prince Bandar, which Moore excerpts. However, recent developments have not been kind to our Mike. In the interval between Moore's triumph at Cannes and the release of the film in the United States, the 9/11 commission has found nothing to complain of in the timing or arrangement of the flights. And Richard Clarke, Bush's former chief of counterterrorism, has come forward to say that he, and he alone, took the responsibility for authorizing those Saudi departures. This might not matter so much to the ethos of Fahrenheit 9/11, except that—as you might expect—Clarke is presented throughout as the brow-furrowed ethical hero of the entire post-9/11 moment

Looks like a ten year old could have done better reseach.

 

[pbman]

So if you call us 'commies' peebs, surely you can not object to us calling you 'fascist' or 'Nazi' (after all you seem to have some sympathy for the BNP).

If you don't like commie, don't call anyone else names,and occationaly correct some of the nasty newbies, and i will do the same.

It shouldn't be that tought even for you.

 

[pbman]

I guess even the incredibly macho Hemingway is something of a 'commie' too in his eyes. Having said that, Hemingway is a bit too classical, rather something more contemporary with bigger text and fewer pages (and maybe pictures) - yeah, Mills and Boon!

Peebs a 'commie'! Nice!

What does macho have to do with right and left?

Ernest Rhom, was a lefty.

 

[nino_savatte]

Who said i didn't watch it?

Don't lie, you never saw it.

 

[nino_savatte]

What does macho have to do with right and left?

Ernest Rhom, was a lefty.

Still promoting the idea that the Nazis were 'commies' peebs? I'm so glad I don't have the limitied abilities of your brain otherwise I'd take that seriously.

Hemingway was a lefty wasn't he? Spanish Civil War and all that.

While I'm here, and since you use the word 'commie' willy-nilly, I may as well call you a 'Nazi'.

You like that?

 

[ViolentPanda]

What does macho have to do with right and left?

Ernest Rhom, was a lefty.

"Ernest Rhom"? Who the fuck is he?

Perhaps you mean Ernst Rohm (who was not a "lefty")?

Jism-wit.

 

[nino_savatte]

"Ernest Rhom"? Who the fuck is he?

Perhaps you mean Ernst Rohm (who was not a "lefty")?

Jism-wit.

Something peebs has overlooked in his desperation to attack me is the fact that because someone is gay doesn't necessarily mean that that person cannot be macho too. He still subscribes to the notion of the gay man as a camp figure. I guess if he admits that if gays can be just a macho (if not more so) than him, he puts his masculinity into question.

 

[friedaweed]

Something peebs has overlooked in his desperation to attack me is the fact that because someone is gay doesn't necessarily mean that that person cannot be macho too. He still subscribes to the notion of the gay man as a camp figure. I guess if he admits that if gays can be just a macho (if not more so) than him, he puts his masculinity into question.

He should do time in San Quentin for this. That ought to change his outlook on handlebar moustaches and John Inman.

Are you being served one yet Prisoner Pussyboots.

I’m Freeeeeeeee


If your such an expert on Moore peebs why don't you watch his movies and then tell us what you think. Or is reading cowboy books and googling up your opinion more your thing.
There's a great cowboy scene in 911.

 

[pk]

You haven't watched Bowling for Colombine have you plebman?