FA Cup First Round Proper draw - Dulwich Hamlet vs Carlisle United, Fri 8th Nov 2019

Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by Dulwich Mishi, Oct 19, 2019.

  1. Bugpowder Dust

    Bugpowder Dust Well-Known Member

    BBC commentator said that Nathan Smith has been training with the team for the last six weeks.

    Anyone know what happened to Aaron Barnes - injured or just not room in the squad? If latter, especially harsh as has been a regular starter and scored the goal to get us here.
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  2. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member


    (photo credit apologies)
  3. Paninaro71

    Paninaro71 New Member

    Also spotted this

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  4. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    It was a certainly a big call to drop Taylor and Connors for the two debutants. A bit like leaving Marc Weatherstone and Kenny Beaney on the bench for the promotion play-offs. Obviously we got over the line on that occasion, which is all that matters in these one-off games. I thought both newcomers did well enough, though whether or not the established pair could have made a difference we'll never know of course. I wasn't surprised with the switch in formation and Orlu & Monakana being recalled, but I felt Taylor could have slotted in nicely at number 4 which is his best position for me. However the manager has earned the right to make these big calls. It would have been a very easy option not to bring in those two players and none of us would have been any the wiser. I'm sure he must have thought very carefully about it.

    The margin of defeat does seem harsh, but at the same time you could argue that we were tactically naïve. Carlisle's game management probably outweighs the fact that we had the better of the possession. They were clearly happy to let us have time and space in the middle third and hit us on the break, it's not like we were overrunning them. The timing of the goals was the real killer. The first one looked terrible from behind the goal where it was scored, badly exposed at the back by a clearance form one of our own corners, so behind after less than ten minutes. I was just thinking "we're doing alright here, just get to half time at 0-1 and we can give it a real go" when they scored the second one. Bath were a good counterattacking side last weekend, but the speed and precision with which Carlisle thrust into the box and finished their chances was a level above what we normally encounter. Great goal to get us back in with a chance four minutes after half time. if we'd kept it at 2-1 until the final ten minutes then let a couple more in it would have felt like we'd given them a tougher contest, but it only took them another five minutes to restore their two goal cushion with a fantastic strike out of nothing. The final goal was a bit of an irrelevance, but very well taken.

    Team (4-3-3): Grainger - McCoy, Orlu, C.Smith, N.Smith - Dempsey, Chapman, Vose - Yusuff, Mills, Monakana. Subs: Clunis (for Monakana), Akinyemi (for Yusuff), Hunte (for Orlu), Taylor, Connors, Ijaha, Edwards (not used).
    Attendance: 3,301 (ground record)
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2019
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  5. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    Thought the BBC coverage was good actually. Dan Walker gets a lot of shit - I never really get why - but he wasn't in any way patronising or condescending.

    Carlisle were just better than us. As said before they sat back and soaked us up fairly comfortably then hit us on the break. I thought the clearest difference though was how ruthless they were in front of goal. Didn't feel like they created a lot of chances, but they took nearly all of them with minimum fuss.

    Did not get the selections of Nathan Smith and Dempsey. Neither did anything wrong, but equally I didn't think they did anything to justify their selection ahead of Taylor and Connors. Thought it was really unfair on both of them. Dempsey in particular was a strange one: I thought he just did exactly the same kind of thing as Vose and Chapman. Didn't offer anything different. Also, no Barnes in the squad?! As Cliffite said, it did leave a slightly sour note.

    Chapman played very well, as did McCoy, who I thought looked far more effective at full back than at centre half. Still at a complete loss as to how Vose gets in ahead of Ijaha: he does move the ball well, but he has literally no interest in tackling and the midfield dirty work. I just think the midfield feels very unbalanced: lots of people wanting to string the ball about, but no one really there to break play up or get up and support Mills and Yussuff.

    Fantastic atmosphere on the terraces. The electronic boards, the cameras, the super-floodlights all made it feel like a different ground. Really enjoyed it all.
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  6. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    (Thought we were worthy of a second goal, too. The scoreline was a touch harsh on us, IMO.

    Oh and their 11 was an obnoxious little tossbag.)
  7. EDC

    EDC A Slightly Less Invisible Cyber Fan These Days

    Their double goalscorer, a Chelsea fan I found out this morning. Good finisher though.
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  8. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    I thought he was rather immature posturing in front of our supporters after his first goal, he could have just run back to the halfway line and acknowledged the applause of his own supporters. Good player though, took his goals well and also set up the first goal.
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  9. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    Exactly: he seemed more interested in goading our supporters - inexplicably so, he hadn't been getting any stick at all - than celebrating with his supporters, most of whom had travelled the length of the country to support him. Dickhead.
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  10. Cliffite

    Cliffite a killer bee, killer bee

    I'm know this is a naive position and I'm not going to criticise Gavin (on much the same basis as follows) but given what being on the BBC means to the players My heart errs towards giving the players their moment given they're likely to never get that chance again. The consequences aren't quite the same as the play off final (in my head at least as just by getting the match we'd got a fantastic achievement). It's much the same as my view on Gavin - he's earnt loyalty to make his calls. It was just a bit of a sad note on an excellent night.

    Throwing on Hunte at the end was a gamble worth taking but have we ever subbed Orlu off and not then conceded within 10 minutes?
  11. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    Fair point about the players who got us to this round missing the big game. Personally that would have swung it for me.

    I think Orlu is our best and most solid defender and would always want him out there if possible, although that was his first game for a month so he may have been flagging a bit.
  12. I’ve gushed at the club all over social media about how utterly professional we were, how brilliant the support especially on the car wash terrace, which was reminiscent of our pre-eviction days. I’m chuffed to bits that we got to the 1st round of the FA Cup and were chosen for live coverage - I will be talking if this forever (or at least until next time).

    I’ll share the thoughts of those on selecting our new signings, smacks of having your squad play in all the rounds then dropping them for first teamers for the final. Had there been injuries or lacking form fair enough, but not this.

    Carlisle did their homework and exposed our formation and broke on us ruthlessly.

    i did though notice our own recent gamesmanship (well shithousery but you don’t use those terms for your own team) we weren’t trying to win or con decisions, no bullying up on the ref, no time wasting just stuck to a belief and a discipline I think has been missing this season and was welcome to see.

    I am though worried about Clunis, bench time hasn’t gone well for him and I seldom see his old self when he’s come on. Last night he needed to hold the ball up in the Carlisle end and there was no effort at all. I hate to think it but maybe he needs some time away on loan to reset himself?

    Chappers MOM (stick to your job and bring strikers in rather than lame shooting from distance). Vose looked decent but I think that had more to do with Carlisle conceding the middle third to us.

    But well done all of us, let’s get back to the important business of establishing ourselves in the NLS and start getting some points on the board.
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  13. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    Car wash end you say? Interesting observation. :D
  14. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

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  15. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    You’re as bad as Dulwich Mishi with his bus shelter stand. OK boomer :D
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  16. tonysingh

    tonysingh Random Clever and Witty Strapline

    He's Gen X surely?
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  17. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    I’m too old to get it right but I know its cool to say it.

    Pink Panther boomer or gen x?
  18. Argonia

    Argonia Happy go licky

    According to Wikipedia Harry McKirdy has scored 35 goals in 25 FA Cup games and 245 goals in 41 games in total in his career. A Carlisle United fan got carried away perchance?
  19. Nivag

    Nivag Well-Known Member

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  20. tonysingh

    tonysingh Random Clever and Witty Strapline

    Bloody hell, Pink Panther is whatever preceeded Boomer. :D
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  21. Nivag

    Nivag Well-Known Member

    Ollie's photos
  22. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

  23. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

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  24. tonysingh

    tonysingh Random Clever and Witty Strapline

    Hell of a compliment that.
  25. Griff_Turnstile

    Griff_Turnstile Flitting in & out like Tinkerbell on Meth

    Personally I expected that to be taken out by Messrs Baker and Hutton with a surplus ex Spetsnaz anti tank weapon they‘d picked up on one of their Eastern European jaunts... 6006B2C8-7EDA-4BA8-A8F9-D54619672AB2.jpeg
  26. Griff_Turnstile

    Griff_Turnstile Flitting in & out like Tinkerbell on Meth

    Could tell he wasn’t a nouveau Dulwich fan; they were Whole Foods bags on their heads
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  27. Nivag

    Nivag Well-Known Member

    My hemp bag for life didn't keep me dry.
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  28. tonysingh

    tonysingh Random Clever and Witty Strapline

    Aren't you meant to smoke hemp, not wear it?
  29. Vanessa Dent

    Vanessa Dent Member

    We're so far ahead of the game, oop North (BTW, we're in the the proper North, not like those Southern ponces from Manchester and Liverpool :D) we've done away with our flat caps and replaced them with Tesco bags, its taking the recycling thing to another level :D
    Really enjoyed the game although felt a bit uncomfortable with the amount of possession Dulwich had, get yourselves a decent striker and you never know. McKirdy is the bloke your all on about, can be an absolute pest to some defences and when hes in the mood he can destroy any back line (ask Barnsley fans), although he does have a certain amount of arrogance about him, which in some ways is a good thing, but he doesn't half wind up the opposition fans.
    Although I wasn't there I've been speaking to a mate who was, and he said he has never ever been to a club as warm and welcoming as Dulwich were, hats off (or plastic Tesco bags) to everybody connected with Dulwich, you've done yourselves proud, all the best for the rest of the season.
    Any chance of swapping chairmen? :thumbs:
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2019
  30. barnsleydulwich

    barnsleydulwich Active Member


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