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F1 2017

Discussion in 'general sports' started by spitfire, Nov 27, 2016.

  1. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp

    Halfway point and interesting mix of tactics/speeds. Bottas not really impacting on the Ferrari duo :hmm:
     
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  2. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    Thanks one of those works for me, after a fashion
     
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  3. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

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  4. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    just how much cash does stroll daddy bring to the team

    :hmm:
     
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  5. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    *shakes fist at india ad's*


    :mad::mad:
     
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  6. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    iirc his old man spent around $80million to get him to F1, he brought an F3 team and employed a top Ferrari mechanic to run his car, also a few years ago he paid for a Williams car a couple of Mercedes power-units and a staff of around 20 so he could go testing at a few different track. I have heard that he paid as much as $30million for the Williams drive
     
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  7. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    Little Felipinho's message to his dad got the waterworks going here, Brazilians love a good cry
     
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  8. spitfire

    spitfire scouting party

    I like the sound of Brazilian.
     
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  9. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp

    Enjoyed the race despite Vettel winning. Some good drives and some decent overtaking. Not a classic but having a couple of the top drivers down the grid does make for a good spectators race.

    Only one more left :(
     
  10. Limejuice

    Limejuice Well-Known Member

    Even my wife enjoyed following Hammy's progress through the field.

    :)
     
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  11. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp

    I bet she did :hmm:
     
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  12. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    Last race 2 weeks time in Abu Dhabi :( a breakfast race for us so not too bad a time
     
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  13. hipipol

    hipipol Peckham Wry

    Interesting season - Ferrari undone by hubris - convinced of their wonderfulness, they ignored Sebs expanding ego and aggression and saved a few Euro on cheap spark plugs...tbf I didn't think they still used em, perhaps next year we could have a boiler failure or some such.....:D:cool:
     
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  14. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here

    It's a bit hard to run an ICE without spark plugs.
     
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  15. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    Did I forget to mention that Liberty Media's new engine rules are calling for teams to switch to Diesel ;)
     
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  16. hipipol

    hipipol Peckham Wry

    I agree that there is a need for an ignition source for the fuel/air mix. I had assumed, erroneously it now appears, that the WunderKinder who run this global nomads circus event, had rendered such ancient tech obsolete
    Have just done a v casual check on tinterweb, there are no alternatives to spark plugs - to be fair the manufacturers are still calling the multi electrode, fine wire and hybrid speak making devices "plugs", in much the same way the connected passenger carrying bits of a train are referred to as "carriages", which the obv aint, those passing thru my side of town are obv cattle trucks. Historic momentum ensures ancient terms mutate and survive

    ETA based as this post is on my failure to realise the sparkplug was still in daily use, even in the most tech dense bit of kit available for frequent viewing, I am now assailed by doubt ref Wunder Kinder - should it really be Wunder Kindern?
     
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  17. hipipol

    hipipol Peckham Wry

    With one single engine supplier no doubt... the VW group perchance?
    Timing is all with these kind of things....
     
  18. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    Mazda claim their new engine does 30% better economy and does not need sparkplugs.
     
  19. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here

    How does it create ignition then?
     
  20. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    A combination of heat and compression IIRC .. off to look for a link
     
  21. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    Well weltweit isn't 100% correct as the new Mazda engine does have spark plugs, it just doesn't use them all the time. Once up and running the car uses compression to ignite the fuel, but spark plus are used to start the engine I believe.
     
  22. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

  23. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    OK, they do still use a spark plug ..
     
  24. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    F1 were looking at this type of power-unit before they went hybrid, but decided to go the "green" route.
     
  25. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    Mazda are innovative, I bet they succeed with this new engine.
     
  26. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    A very crude way of describing compression ignition is when you get an engine knock in your car, that happens because the fuel burns under compression before the spark ignites.
     
  27. hipipol

    hipipol Peckham Wry

    Space Cadet Special
    Ah Lewis, big luv moving embodiment of Zen, totally here now, frank about the extensions of conscious and ability, not claims to bizarre super human nonsense, simply the attainment of the possible. These are the benefits of awareness, which also decries the destruction of the same by sloth
     
  28. hipipol

    hipipol Peckham Wry

    It would need to be a giant leap
    The way a cylinder is set and and set fire to owes a great deal to flint and matchtlock firearms - there is a single source of spark/ignition
    I am surprised given the nature of modern materials science that we still essentially rely on a combustion chamber with a hole in the top where the "fire" is allowed ingress
    With a fully mixed air fuel chamber it is of no consequence where the ignition begins, unless there is some weakness in the "canister", such as the ignition source
    It would be simple to place the cathode at the tope in one band of metal, the anode at the other or vice versa and imbed that in the sides of every cylinder
    Is that not possible? If not , why?
    Does any one know why that wouldn't work?
     
  29. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    New F1 logo on the way it seems
    New trademark applications have been registered with the European Union Intellectual Property reveal the possible changes to the current design. The applications were submitted by Formula One Licensing BV. It seems that the 3 below have been registered as they appear and also with the words "Formula 1" missing underneath. Rumor has it that they could be in use by this weekends Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.
    [​IMG]
    I think Liberty Media have missed a marketing opportunity here, I think they should have offered fans a competition to design a new Logo over the closed season and announced the winner at the start of next season. I'm sure they would have got loads of people submitting Logo's and if they didn't like them they could have named the person who designed the one they take from the 3 above as the winner.

    Force India may not now change their name for 2018
    Personally I think they will change the name but as any new name has to be ratified by the FIA and F1 Commission before it can be used and Liberty media have already said they can not use Force One (the name they have registered as a limited company) because it could be shorten to F1.

    Lots of talk about Pietro Fittipaldi in Brazilian media
    Next season will be the first season without a Brazilian driver in F1 since 1969 (Emerson Fittipaldi started in 1970 I think). Pietro won the Formula V8 3.5 title last week in Bahrain, which I believe means he qualifies for a super-license. He took part in yesterday's WEC rookie test in Bahrain, driving Porsche's 919 Hybrid LMP1 car, he was faster than Toyota rookies Fernando Alonso and Thomas Laurent which I hope means F1 team owners have a look at him for 2019.

    Last fully open cockpit race in F1
    This weekends race, the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix could well be the last race in F1 where the cars have a fully open cockpit as from next season cars will have the Halo.
     
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  30. Limejuice

    Limejuice Well-Known Member

    And so it comes round.

    The 2017 season finale in Abu Dhabi this weekend.

    Pretty civilised timings for European viewers. The UK times are:

    Fri 24 Nov
    FP1 - 09.00
    FP2 - 13.00

    Sat 25 Nov
    FP3 - 10.00
    Qual - 13.00

    Sun 26 Nov
    Race - 13.00

    :thumbs:
     
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