mk12 said:As I side, I think it's pretty clear who he's making fun at with his characters and jokes. He's an old liberal really.
Dubversion said:IThing is, i don't mind offensive humour or difficult characters (otherwise it would be bloody Fresh Fields) but it has to be FUNNY and INVENTIVE. And if Gervais was ever any of those things, I don't think he is any more.
May Kasahara said:I think you have pinpointed something that I was also trying to delineate in my own mind but couldn't because I was overcome with revulsion at the thought of Gervais. Well done Dub!

Dubversion said:Now I think you're speculating
mk12 said:no - in the office, whose the sensible character? Tim. It's clear Gervais portrays Tim as the person with the "correct" views about things. In my opinion, Gervais likes to think Tim represents what Gervais thinks is "right". So Tim is appaled at Finchey's sexism, Gareth's homophobia, Brent's racism etc.
If Gervais himself was homophobic, how could he have written a character like Tim? Why would he have?
The funny thing was Tim's reactions to things Gareth said. Your supposed to laugh at Gareth for thinking those things.
I can't believe after 5-6 years of Gervais comedies we're discussing this!
mk12 said:mitchell and webb is utter crap.
mk12 said:no - im saying that those who think he is homophobic don't understand his humour.


Dubversion said:here.
but i was only kidding![]()
goldenecitrone said:I thought the funniest bit was Marchant waiting for the toilet bowl to fill up again so he could try and flush the rest of his crap away. Not very subtle but very funny. And Ian MacKellan and the vaseline.![]()

Dubversion said:i think Gervais - and this is pure conjecture - wrings humour from these characters because he knows there's humour there, but i also think that much of the humour resides in people saying the wrong thing in the wrong place, rather than simply saying the wrong thing per se. I think it's as much Gervais taking on/ sticking his fingers up at 'PC' as it is laughing at bigotry.
mk12 said:mitchell and webb isn't funny, not because it's homophobic, but because it's not funny.
mk12 said:i actually cried with laughter when that bottle fizzed up.![]()

mk12 said:mitchell and webb isn't funny, not because it's homophobic, but because it's not funny.

mk12 said:i actually cried with laughter when that bottle fizzed up.![]()


Please can you explain it to us mere mortelsDubversion said:it's because you don't understand their humour.

Dubversion said:For someone championing humour, you're being peculiarly humourless this morning. Perhaps there's a link with you finding Gervais funny?![]()
J77 said:Please can you explain it to us mere mortels![]()
Oh - I see... bit too smart for me on a Friday morningDubversion said:You miss my point. it was a reference to one of mk12's earlier posts.


mk12 said:no - im saying that those who think he is homophobic don't understand his humour.
bluestreak said:not being funny likie, but the joke here is the sad bloke acting as a gay and torn between looking cool in front of his macho homophobe mates and the screaming camp queers. well, that one is new and fresh. this is the first one i've seen but if that's a good example of the humour... stuff that was tired 15 years ago and full of stereotypes, i'm certainly not bothering again.
Ms Ordinary said:Yes, the way it ended was crap, especially - I was waiting for a twist to the ending - like his macho friends