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salem

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I don't get what you're saying, that it's somehow started and/or engineered purposefully to distract from those things, or just that its appearance is timely for them?
I don't know, probably more a convenience that's being taken advantage of than something that was engineered from the start. Anyway just idle thinking rather than firm accusation.
 

Anju

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Good interview. Apparently they are expecting to be physically attacked once government realise they're serious and not going away.

 

skyscraper101

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This is what tory MP David TC Davies has been busy doing this week. Writing a letter to pop group the 1975 and then tweeting it to express how pissed off he is with their support of Extinction Rebellion.

 

Rivendelboy

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This from a couple of days ago. They don't seem to have learned how cops work. Hallam offers no actual evidence this works, he just assumes, because he's got a degree in it, that it will work.

 

Pickman's model

every man and every woman is a star
This from a couple of days ago. They don't seem to have learned how cops work. Hallam offers no actual evidence this works, he just assumes, because he's got a degree in it, that it will work.

i watched the first three minutes of it and gave up and i was reminded of frankie howerd and the prologue in up pompeii, although there was more sense in up pompeii
 

LynnDoyleCooper

I fucking told you so.
i watched the first three minutes of it and gave up and i was reminded of frankie howerd and the prologue in up pompeii, although there was more sense in up pompeii
There's a few small bits that are OK, or that might be worth further thinking about and discussion, but it's mostly just a fairly incoherent ramble of his particular predictable position that he also seems to think is somewhat new and radical, rather than it just being what every liberal and hippie has droned on about for decades.
 

Red Sky

It was like that when I got here.
Well yes, following a big stink kicked up by nearly everyone around the Heathrow drone action it was decided to carry it out as an "unaffiliated" action. Roger Hallam is the main proponent of that action. Doesn't seem to have stopped him acting as spokesman for XR or drawing a stipend.
 

redcogs

in the gutter beholding the stars
Am i detecting a little cynicism?

OK the guys a hippie, but the essential point that there is a juggernaught of shit coming quickly towards us all seems irrefutable? i'm frightened for my kids, and i share that fear with many others - so im prepared to overlook any failings that the messenger may have and listen carefully to the vital message. We know that direct action has succeeded many times in history from female suffrage to civil rights etc, surely we can hope that humanity can get its act together and try to intervene to prevent famine driven social collapse?
 

Red Sky

It was like that when I got here.
There's a few small bits that are OK, or that might be worth further thinking about and discussion, but it's mostly just a fairly incoherent ramble of his particular predictable position that he also seems to think is somewhat new and radical, rather than it just being what every liberal and hippie has droned on about for decades.
That does seem to be the modern way, why write three paragraphs when a rambling two hour monologue on YouTube will do?
 

Rivendelboy

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Banned
Well yes, following a big stink kicked up by nearly everyone around the Heathrow drone action it was decided to carry it out as an "unaffiliated" action. Roger Hallam is the main proponent of that action. Doesn't seem to have stopped him acting as spokesman for XR or drawing a stipend.
But that doesn't mean they have disavowed him as you seem to imply. Do you have any sources?
 

Rivendelboy

Banned
Banned
Am i detecting a little cynicism?

OK the guys a hippie, but the essential point that there is a juggernaught of shit coming quickly towards us all seems irrefutable? i'm frightened for my kids, and i share that fear with many others - so im prepared to overlook any failings that the messenger may have and listen carefully to the vital message. We know that direct action has succeeded many times in history from female suffrage to civil rights etc, surely we can hope that humanity can get its act together and try to intervene to prevent famine driven social collapse?
I agree, we all do I hope. But that isn't going to be solved by pandering to the cops though surely
 

redcogs

in the gutter beholding the stars
I agree, we all do I hope. But that isn't going to be solved by pandering to the cops though surely
Not read the thread so unaware of main argument re the coppers. On the assumption that it relates to the state's inevitable resort to violence if ER activities begin to threaten the interests of the wealthy id suggest that a non violent response in the Ghandian tradition is unlikely to be effective - as ever, the key will be to mobilise numbers - sounds easy dont it? But the coppers will be cautious if they are massively outnumbered. If some uniformed thug starts laying into you in the interests of capital, then they must realistically expect physical resistance. i'm not for turning the other cheek.
 

redcogs

in the gutter beholding the stars
i fear for Roger Hallam. The corrupt and powerful forces that Extinction Rebellion are taking on will not hesitate to crush prominent eco radicals if necessary - yet its not clear that ER recognise this. Hallam's admirable integrity coupled to the astronomic success of ER thus far make him a clear target for the gangster element of the establishment, who will regard him as having about the same significance as a cockroach in the kitchen.

His naive style shouldn't blind anyone to the fact that he is one courageous comrade - and i'm inclined to raise a fist in solidarity with both him and his pal Mike Lynch Whyte.
 
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