Explain the attraction of Jazz please....
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Boogie Boy
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ViolentPanda said:You have a point.
Mind you, at least "acid jazz" waas slightly jazz-based, jazz-funk (well, most of it) wasn't jazz, and it certainly wasn't funky!
Uhm. 'Dominoes' by Donald Byrd? 'Places And Spaces'? 'You And The Music'?. Admittedly this music is usually placed under the term of 'fusion' but this is FUNKY!!!!!
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Boogie Boy said:Uhm. 'Dominoes' by Donald Byrd? 'Places And Spaces'? 'You And The Music'?. Admittedly this music is usually placed under the term of 'fusion' but this is FUNKY!!!!!
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it's shit. See also Lonnie Liston Smith, Roy Ayers, yadda yadda yadda
eoin_k said:
so what? i'm sure we've covered this: liking something doesn't mean you have to like its influences, that's an absurd standpoint.
and to be fair, your post was fairly condescending so I can see why jbob posted what he did
I like a lot of jazz, from bebop through to free jazz. Don't really bother to keep up with current jazz music much, except for Steve Coleman who's good IMO. You can download lots of his stuff for free from his website:
http://www.m-base.com/download.html
'Twister' off the Black Science album is a good nocturnal-sounding track:
http://www.m-base.org/black_science_mp3_files/twister.mp3
http://www.m-base.com/download.html
'Twister' off the Black Science album is a good nocturnal-sounding track:
http://www.m-base.org/black_science_mp3_files/twister.mp3
nope.
i've got shedloads of soul, mate. Just can't stand Roy Ayers.
ViolentPanda
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Boogie Boy said:Uhm. 'Dominoes' by Donald Byrd? 'Places And Spaces'? 'You And The Music'?. Admittedly this music is usually placed under the term of 'fusion' but this is FUNKY!!!!!
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Yeah, but when I mention "jazz-funk", I'm talking about that quintessentially British musical movement that served up to us the delights of Light of the World, Shakatak, Maze, Beggar and Co and other anaemic, emetic musical dross.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
poului said:
Cooler than you, Englebert.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
Roy Ayers is funky and coolBlagsta said:
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danny la rouge said:
Have only heard the name - my knowledge of jazz isn't good but different bits always sound so different it surprises me it's all one genre. I find it hard to hear a common thread between, say, Nina Simone (which incidentally I like) and Jamiroquai (which incidentally I don't), and ragtime (which I'm not sure is jazz but my mate insists it is).
Some of it seems to overlap heavily with blues too.
Loupylou said:
Or, if eoin k had read the thread and realised that his assumptions were misplaced, his beginners guide to jazz and its influence upon popular music wouldn't have come across as quite so condescending. The point being that several people, including myself, had merely taken the piss out of some elements of jazz, but had not trashed the entire genre (and indeed had praised substantial parts of it).
Tbf, the OP is ridiculous anyway; exchange the word 'jazz' for 'rock', 'country', 'classical', etc, etc and you have a whole heap of superfluous threads about genres of music that incorporate very broad characterisitics, feed into one another, and cannot be pinned down to specific 'explanations' for their relative merits. The only real answer is to dabble and see if there's any bits you like.
Loupylou said:
hang on
jbob's post isn't vitriolic at all, for fuck's sake
a bit sarky, that's about it..
Perhaps the post only comes over as vitriolic if read with that in mind, so it says more about those reading it and interpreting it as such than the person who wrote it.
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Dubversion said:
Of course I disagree with you Dub, during my time on these boards it has become clear that we have few points of common interest musically. C'est la vie.
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ViolentPanda said:Yeah, but when I mention "jazz-funk", I'm talking about that quintessentially British musical movement that served up to us the delights of Light of the World, Shakatak, Maze, Beggar and Co and other anaemic, emetic musical dross.
Maze described as dross? Light of the World described as dross? Shakatak described as dross?
Shocking. Absolutely shocking.
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ViolentPanda
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Boogie Boy said:Maze described as dross? Light of the World described as dross? Shakatak described as dross?
Shocking. Absolutely shocking.
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So you agree with "anaemic" and "emetic", then?
Boogie Boy
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ViolentPanda said:So you agree with "anaemic" and "emetic", then?
Of course not!
(goes off singing 'You're My No 1 Girl'........)
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Dubversion said:hang on
jbob's post isn't vitriolic at all, for fuck's sake
a bit sarky, that's about it..
Perhaps the post only comes over as vitriolic if read with that in mind, so it says more about those reading it and interpreting it as such than the person who wrote it.
I'd spent the a.m dealing with the legal profession................I rest my fucking case.
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