butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Most peope sail these seas easily enough i think. Only people who don't understand freak out like this.
existential dread
- Thread starter Beanis
- Start date
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Beanis said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existential_dread
I read a bit of Søren Kierkegaard a while ago, and really identified with his words, at the time i was really going through it, having just gone through a break up that was messy as hell, i was surely depressed. I also read Nausea by satre and felt totally mentaly deranged.
Recently i feel i've been going throuh alot again, and have been getting alot of anxiety/dread feelings. They come and go pretty quickly sometimes, and i can go from feeling low one hour to quite joyous the next. It seems underneath my exterior there is something that is frightened of existence on some level.
I know there could be various 'explanations' for this, or 'diagnosis', ie bipolar.
but what i was really wanting to bring up is the relationship between kierkegaard's existential dread feelings and depression. They seems to correspond very closely for me, ie. if im feeling depressed i tend to feel pretty existential too, i start to question things in a higher level than usual. When in a relationship, or if stuff is going well, and i feel happy, i plod along quite happily and the bigger questions in life seems to fade away, so i guess what im trying to say also is, does happiness lead to a less creative and active mind? I do not think im bipolar, because my emotions are not so extreme, i tend to feel mostly low for long periods, and come out of it sometimes,and when i come out of it it feels like i have got the answer, and life seems creative and i also feel happy, but then i tend to sink back into the low feelings and the existential dread comes back, like a low humming anxiety.
im worried this doesnt make sense, because im confused about it myself. i dont know if this should be in the nobbin/sobbin section or here.
anyone have any ideas on this atall?
You could start by getting your blood sugar levels tested.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Andie macdowell was miscast. Iron.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What does 'developed' mean?
Um, JPELCU is philosophical/metaphysical- JPELCU is the reason man invented god in the first place. It doesn't get more metaphysical than JPELCU, which summarizes pretty much all the metaphysical yearnings of man. Eternal life in a paradise, and divine judgment, and divine imparting of the universe's secrets.nosos said:
An orgy isn't metaphysical, it's physical. In more ways than one.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
...and sky+
I don't want any of your things btw. Except eternal life. No one does. They're just made up descriptions that have been put in your mind.
I don't want any of your things btw. Except eternal life. No one does. They're just made up descriptions that have been put in your mind.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
drews said:
How many ways is it physical?
Which is why we should discontinue our species- we have yearnings the universe can't fulfill. Discontinue the human race.merlin wood said:
What? like cold calling or shelf filling at Tesco, I suppose.
At one time I would've thought the greatest existential fear could have been of going to Hell and could still be but for a lot fewer people.
These days I'd say the most widespread such fear is that of meaninglessness. The fear that the answer to the question Is there any point to it all? is just 'No'.
People like Richard Dawkins may decry religion but it is arguable that such beliefs do fulfill a basic need for an ultimate sense of purpose for mortal creatures who are aware of themselves and the world in general
drews - Hobbes said life is brutal and short. Damian Thompson has a book End of Time about a whole host of movements believing the end of time theory.
Hey we are still here (maybe closer to the end of time - nuclear war, climate change etc..) I am sure there is a life and meaning for you out there - grab it. As Gramsci puts it "the challenge of modernity is to live without illusions. without becoming disillusioned".
I want u to survive.
Hey we are still here (maybe closer to the end of time - nuclear war, climate change etc..) I am sure there is a life and meaning for you out there - grab it. As Gramsci puts it "the challenge of modernity is to live without illusions. without becoming disillusioned".
I want u to survive.
because you can't have them without eternal life?drews said:
people who want eternal life are fucking stupid.
you want eternal life.
ergo you are fucking stupid.
see that? it's a syllogism. it's what we do when we construct arguments rather than repeating trite emo cliches ad nauseam
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
drews said:
Teenage non-nietzscheans - now i've seen everything.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
It's priceless isn;t it/
BTW - isn't Andie Macdowell miscast in everything except concrete?
BTW - isn't Andie Macdowell miscast in everything except concrete?
nosos said:
haha, yes i did much the same, but when i was 15/16 i went through much more of an existential mess than i feel now. Back then i'd look in the mirror for half an hour and reduce myself to a wreck, or have huge whiteys that ended in me thinking my consciousness didnt exist, and stuff like that.
Now im through that i can look at my feelings in much more of considered way, where i dont react to my fears quite so quickly.
I dont really know how this discussion got to destroying the human race.
I was in no way implicating that i found existence pointless, i was more saying that it was very confusing, and on occassion i get a feeling of being in a void. this may be very natural indeed, and i feel its good to express rather than lock up, though when its strong it can be deabilitating.
eternal life? that would be similar to being on the dole wouldnt it?
you think of hundreds of really amazing and creative exciting things to do, and fail to carry any of them out because you actually have too much time and no structure. so you spend your life wanking and looking at myspace. (not that i have any experience of this i assure you)
97% of people don't- only about 3 percent of the world is atheist. So like 90 percent of people believe in a magical sky god/'afterlife', and the other 7 percent are lucky enough to be blissfully ignorant agnostics.nosos said:no you do. most people accept that they can't have eternal life.
I'm part of the unlucky 3 %.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
They don't you know.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
drews said:
You appear to be labouring under the hilarious (to me) misapprehension that those people who follow a belief system or religious path all believe in an afterlife. You're obviously one of those arse-numbingly ignorant bastards who don't bother with even basic research in support of their hypothesis.
Bad cess to you, you whiny ignorant fuckwit.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
drews said:
Do they care or don't they care? Make your mind up please.
The only answer to existential angst is 'distract yourself with bullshit'. That's it. There will never be an answer to the human predicament. We are animals headed nowhere when we die, and we will never have justice, paradise, eternal life, or complete understanding of the universe.
All we can do is distract ourselves with bullshit until we die. That's it. Just distract yourself by playing with a bright red bouncy ball until you die.
This sucks.
All we can do is distract ourselves with bullshit until we die. That's it. Just distract yourself by playing with a bright red bouncy ball until you die.
This sucks.
Grego Morales
New Member
drews said:
Similar threads
