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Exemplary films

'Examplary', 'transcend any boundary'....tough categories, many of my favourite movies wouldn't pass those criteria, sometimes that falling just short in some ways is why makes it superb (eg Vertigo, its falls just short, imo, but is so brave and far-reaching in what it is trying to do that it still ranks as one of the world's greatest masterpieces), or sometimes there is a bit that just is crap, but you can ignore because of the other 95% of the movie (eg the ending of Come & See - sorry but all that backwards film stuff looks crap, and is crap).

There aren't many that are really truly that great, but here's five that haven't been mentioned already:

Life & Death of Colonel Blimp
A Matter of Life & Death
Black Narcissus
Red Shoes
Some Like It Hot

jbob- what did you think of the cum shot in ACT?
 
gsv said:
[American Beauty
For very similar, genre-surpassing reasons.
<awaits Dubversion's sticky-flame-of-death, wearing the vicar's nuclear-powered shades :cool: />
A friend of mine's Dad left his Mum after watcing that: :rolleyes: to the max
 
belboid said:
'Examplary', 'transcend any boundary'....tough categories, many of my favourite movies wouldn't pass those criteria, sometimes that falling just short in some ways is why makes it superb (eg Vertigo, its falls just short, imo, but is so brave and far-reaching in what it is trying to do that it still ranks as one of the world's greatest masterpieces), or sometimes there is a bit that just is crap, but you can ignore because of the other 95% of the movie (eg the ending of Come & See - sorry but all that backwards film stuff looks crap, and is crap).

There aren't many that are really truly that great, but here's five that haven't been mentioned already:

Life & Death of Colonel Blimp
A Matter of Life & Death
Black Narcissus
Red Shoes
Some Like It Hot

jbob- what did you think of the cum shot in ACT?


I've only seen Colonel Blimp and that was excellent.

Glad to see you actually digested the OP rather than post your favourite recent film.... :)
 
How about...

Ingmar Bergman's Seventh Seal--wonderful recreation of medieval attitudes to life death & love

John Boorman's Excalibur--about youth, achievement, dreams, aging, magic, religion. Fantastic, esp. the way Merlin's character undergoes downward & upward mutation within the film. And (as with Seventh Seal) the way the thin membrane between this world & the next is represented: superb.

That said, there can be no ultimate agreement about genre-surpassing movies as such: everybody thinks their own favourites do that. Whatever films are chosen say as much about the poster's preoccupations as the films themselves. Mine included! For example, the way I relate to that scene at the end of Excalibur when the few remaining knights wonder what has happened, & how to rebuild, is by recalling William Morris' line about how socialists have to constantly refight for socialism under another name, in each generation (loose paraphrase). Also, my liking for films with a medieval aspect to them reflects my impatience (shared with the sublime Camille Paglia) with much post-Enlightenment Western thought. Thus, I personally, for all its flaws, would even rate the Kingdom of Heaven above (say) Watership Down.
 
Two Chinese picks:
Raise the Red Lantern - visually utterly stunning, but more importantly - a devastating film which shows you how and why oppressed groups of people (women, the poor, whatever) are brainwashed into collaborating with the abuse heaped upon them. One of the most feminist movies ever (and it's made by a man :rolleyes: :p )
To Live - basically the entire history of China c.1930-1970, but seen through the eyes of a single family and always with a wealth of human detail and feeling you don't often get from history movies. Much less gory and more hopeful than Come and See, but just as direct in showing you how war wreaks havoc on human beings.
 
Ryazan said:
aah, you didn't then.....

I googled Lefebvrist & it brought up a page that told me it was something to do with an old mucker of Ratzingers, who was involved in (probably led) a schism. But I fell asleep before reaching the second paragraph.
 
I wasn't aware of a schism. Situationism came from France did it not?

France is Catholic.

Badum tishhh.
 
Henri Lefebvre came from france, thought that was what he was refering to

is schism the same as a schismatic lone wolf? :confused:
 
Ryazan said:
How does Rublej die Firky?

To be perfectly honest with you its about 8 years if not more since I last saw it, (same with fairwell my concubine) so I apologise if I can't remember it in intimate detail like you clearly do.. elitist :p
 
Because you'll just point and laugh and say "haha told you so, you're full of shit." etc. :(

Even if I'm correct you'll just think I've googled it, or asked in another forum.

Is my word not enough?
 
I don't see why you are getting all worried for. You still haven't really discussed why you like the films you posted up in the original post. Just Idi I Smotri gets bandied around these boards as if it is some trendy thing to be into, or to appear to be into. I thought you could have gone into more detail that is all.
 
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