EVIL cats

[Bakunin]

A new low for selfish cat owners.

Tell me you didn't take the 'children' part of that post seriously.

If someone started lobbing stones at my cat while it was going about its day to day business then I'd certainly be tempted to remonstrate with them. If they injured one of my animals then I'd probably injure them in return. It's no great secret that those with a passion for needless cruelty to animals are also often not averse to inflicting the same on people given what they might consider a good enough excuse, so I'd have no qualms about administering my own form of punishment then and there if the culprit could be clearly identified.

It may interest those who advocate air guns and stones as a reasonable means of deterring cats from entering their gardens that such methods are highly illegal. And needless cruelty to animals can be indicative of a latent psychopathic streak, just ask any psychiatrist.

 

[Jonti]

And keeping cats that are allowed to roam loose is, of course, cruelty by proxy.

Cruelty by proxy can be indicative of a latent psychopathic streak, just ask any psychiatrist.

 

[Athos]

They're just obeying their natural instincts, that's all. Cats are born predators and a kill is a kill to them.

My natural instincts tell me cats are cunts. Kill them.

 

[Bakunin]

And keeping cats that are allowed to roam loose is, of course, cruelty by proxy.

Cruelty by proxy can be indicative of a latent psychopathic streak, just ask any psychiatrist.

No it isn't. It's simply nature's way in action when a cat hunts, a cat essentially being a smaller version of a larger predator that also roams free and hunts as its needs dictate.

It may interest you to know that no small number of abusers of people began their tendencies with a penchant for needless cruelty to animals. By abusers I mean violent offenders such as murderers, thugs and even many serial killers. Once they get a taste for cruelty, then needless cruelty to animals tends not to be enough for them and they are quite likely to move on to making people suffer for their own amusement instead or as well as torturing animals. Needless cruelty to animals, especially when it starts as a child or teenager, is recognised as a major symptom of a sociopathic or even psychopathic personality. That's established medical fact, I think you'll find.

 

[two sheds]

It may interest you to know that no small number of abusers of people began their tendencies with a penchant for needless cruelty to animals. By abusers I mean violent offenders such as murderers, thugs and even many serial killers. Once they get a taste for cruelty, then needless cruelty to animals tends not to be enough for them and they are quite likely to move on to making people suffer for their own amusement instead or as well as torturing animals. Needless cruelty to animals, especially when it starts as a child or teenager, is recognised as a major symptom of a sociopathic or even psychopathic personality. That's established medical fact, I think you'll find.

Yep, it's one of the things to look out for if you want to know what someone is really like.

 

[madzone]

Yep, it's one of the things to look out for if you want to know what someone is really like.

How do you find out though?

Hi, my names madzone, burned the wings off any butterflies lately? Slashed any hoses?

 

[two sheds]

How do you find out though?

Hi, my names madzone, burned the wings off any butterflies lately? Slashed any hoses?

aaaaah you watch quietly and note *taps finger against nose*

 

[tarannau]

And 'hyperbole' I'm sorry. Dogs do attack people and children, let's not pretend it doesn't happen - it does. Once in a blue moon a cat will go for someone, I'm sure you'll find an example because it's far rarer= 100 times more likely to get news exposure.

3,800 dog injuries treated in hospital every year, according to a more than slightly alarmist article in the Sun
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article856016.ece

Which compares to 182,000 hospital treated car accident casualties in hospital fwiw (source dft). I'll let you do the maths, but the probability of a dog mauling remain tiny compared to many other risks. A single cat is calculated to kill 'may kill 100 or more birds and mammals per year' according to many sources (eg http://www.floridaconservation.org/cats/) which ain't nearly as insignificant

Cat hair is a far worse allergen than dog hair too fwiw. Recent studies have suggested that upto a 1/3 of people may be allergic to cats in some way, which seems exaggerated to me, but more likely suggestions of 8-15% seem closer to the truth of my experience. Dog hair allergy is typically less than half of that.

 

[madzone]

aaaaah you watch quietly and note *taps finger against nose*

Is that why you didn't come on halloween?

 

[T & P]

And keeping cats that are allowed to roam loose is, of course, cruelty by proxy.

What?

 

[tarannau]

I'm a bit mystified by that too. Perhaps he means cruelty to other animals.

He's a slight point there. Cats aren't a native species, nor is a species propped up by human support and vets a 'natural' predator in balance with its surroundings. Most cats have enough food to never have to hunt - they hunt for fun and often cruelly at that.

 

[two sheds]

Is that why you didn't come on halloween?

how was it?

 

[T & P]

I'm a bit mystified by that too. Perhaps he means cruelty to other animals.

He's a slight point there. Cats aren't a native species, nor is a species propped up by human support and vets a 'natural' predator in balance with its surroundings. Most cats have enough food to never have to hunt - they hunt for fun and often cruelly at that.

Out of curiosity, when does a species cease to be alien and become 'native'? I mean, cats must have been in Britain for at least thousands of years if not tens of thousands. If an organism makes an appearance in a territory for the fist time, and within a few years there has been a marked decline in other species, you could argue the new arrival is not compatible or desirable to the local ecosystem.

But since cats have been around for at least a few millennia and have not been responsible (to the best of my knowledge) for mass extinctions of any kind, why are they still being referred to as non natives? How much longer before they're considered native?

Another thing that gets overlooked is that whether we like it or not there are large numbers of feral cats around. Cat ownership by humans actually encourages population control. If cats ceased to be seen as desirable companions, no stray cats and kittens would be rescued (and thus neutered), resulting in far more cats about and far more wildlife killed.

 

[tarannau]

No idea really. But given that cats are bred, aided and supported by humans in huge numbers, it's as native and 'natural' predator as a goldfish really.

 

[T & P]

But the point is, if humans stopped looking after them they would not only survive just fine, but their numbers would quite probably multiply. Human ownership is actually a good thing.

I really don't buy the whole 'not native' argument.

 

[two sheds]

But the point is, if humans stopped looking after them they would not only survive just fine, but their numbers would quite probably multiply. Human ownership is actually a good thing.

I really don't buy the whole 'not native' argument.

I'm not sure something can ever become native if it wasn't here around the time of the ice age, can it? When the sea levels rose cutting Britain off I think that was your lot.

 

[madzone]

how was it?

It was good. Could've done with a few more people but apart from that it was ace. The house looked fab