Everybody In The Place, Rave Doc.

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by moody, Jul 29, 2019.

  1. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    you could even get a sandwich and a cup of tea.
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  2. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

    Who said they were put on for free? They are free to go to (if you can get to them of course)
    Free party crews did and do it for the love and having a party, sometimes raised a bit when doing a bar but usually don't make more than petrol money.
    Some do legit nights too
  3. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    Legit nights don't make money generally either tbf - out of all the promoting crews I've ever been friends with, only one actually makes a living from it.
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  4. nogojones

    nogojones Well-Known Member

    I think everything I was involved in lost money, apart from free things that oddly made a touch
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  5. Mattym

    Mattym Well-Known Member

    I thought to squeeze all of that into an hour, was brilliant. The fact that he rolled it out to different regions-Nice to see. That could've gone further, but not in a hour.
  6. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    See above.

    I hope this is just Chapter 1. Chapter 2 is the far more important story; a fusion of cultures that the BBC ought to highlight. Given the Windrush scandal and the dominant cultural history of the 90s as some Britpop pleasure zone it's about time we look at the extraordinary creativity of UK musics from hardcore up to Grime in the 90s.
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  7. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I think the best thing about it is that there was more focus on the ravers than you’d usually get. Far better than the standard BBC4 format that traces the musical career of Pete Tong and Norman Cook or whatever.

    There were ideas in there too. Some of them were a stretch but so what.
  8. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    Maybe the unicorns appeared with the tents, decks, PAs and records. Or maybe those putting them on had money?
  9. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    It wasn’t a programme about free parties but off you go.

    In my experience those things were put on by an unholy alliance of people who had money, people who had no money and even some people who came from money.
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  10. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    And people like Paul Staines and Wayne Anthony who saw the opportunity to make a lot of money quickly.
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  11. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    I have mates who put on a small festival and they do charge at very reasonable prices. Otherwise it’d be impossible.
  12. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

    I know what's involved thanks, spent 1000's on all that stuff and many days building it in different places, and nights (and days) appreciating the results

    anyway, not the thread topic so enough said
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  13. Mattym

    Mattym Well-Known Member

    or Paul fucking Oakenfold.
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  14. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Alles hat ein Ende nur eine Wurst hat zwei

    Deller is great- it is all about ideas- not sure about the strength of linkage to the strike but its kinda irrelevant whether is quatifiable or not as he's chucking out stuff to kids who likely have no handed down cultural memory of the period.
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  15. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse A-wob a-bob bob

    Sweet Harmony @ Saatchi Gallery, Chelsea.










  16. moody

    moody Being alive increases risk of death.

    a picture of some lines being snorted off a deck of bensons?

    thought the saatchi's were better than that, jeez I got loads of similar pictures.
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2019
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  17. pocketbear

    pocketbear Active Member

    Spotted this thread v belatedly. Having worked on the Deller film, I thought it might be useful to chip in on some of the stuff people have mentioned.

    In terms of drugs: obviously they're a massive part of the overall story, but once you factor in the limitations created by the school setting there are fewer visually & narratively interesting approaches to the subject than you'd think. We did have some great archive of people on bad trips, but trying to address that in a way which stayed within the school's red lines, didn't feel exploitative of the people in the footage, and was more important than the other stuff we wanted to include, was tricky. There's obviously a trade-off in leaving it out, but I think it was worth it overall.

    In terms of BBC bias or "Muslim teenagers" (??) - the BBC didn't produce the film, they bought it after it had been made, and from memory the cut that was broadcast was almost entirely identical to the version I saw a year before it aired. An extremely weird comment to make, and rather telling, sadly.

    The timeline cuts off at '92 because that's the period Jeremy was primarily interested in, and we only had an hour. I'd absolutely love to see something which follows the thread through to hardcore, the Criminal Justice Bill, jungle, grime etc. Write to the BBC and tell them to commission it (and hire me for it, please).
  18. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    It disappears off of iplayer after Sunday (1st Sep), so get on it if you haven't seen it yet
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  19. Anju

    Anju Well-Known Member

  20. moody

    moody Being alive increases risk of death.

  21. Anju

    Anju Well-Known Member

    Yes, might have been good if people who didn't like the political angle of the Deller doc had read this before watching.
  22. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Was reading a thing about englishness and it mentioned this Jeremy Deller 15 minute video piece called English Magic
    well worth a watch..the video is in the link
    Jeremy Deller's English Magic at Venice Biennale - exclusive video
    "Scrapyards, street parades, an inflatable Stonehenge and a giant Sunday roast – all set to a steel drum soundtrack of David Bowie, A Guy Called Gerald and Vaughan Williams, recorded at Abbey Road. In this exclusive video work from his Venice Biennale British pavilion show, Jeremy Deller gives us an off-the-wall vision of England."

    I think if you liked Everybody In the Place you'll get something out this
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  23. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Alles hat ein Ende nur eine Wurst hat zwei

    I know I keep on saying this, and some may disagree, but I think Deller is one of the most interesting artists around ATM. latest charity type print as an example:
  24. passenger

    passenger up and down...

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