Everton: How Embarrassing

[NoCoolNickname]

Yeah, if you look above there's a link to when we beat united in 94 in the final. I would think your right, and they have at some time or other.
We don't enter it now though. I don't think you do either do you? If I remember rightly Morcambe won it the other year - I think it's mostly Accy and teams like that in it. Dunno about league clubs. Still when the time comes it will have a thread all to itself!!! Look forward to that one U75.

*whispers*
(northern forum, northern forum....)

I don't think we enter it either anymore. I think we should though. It would be a good oppurtunity for the reserve and youth players to play in a few semi-competetive games. Especially if the likes of Everton, Man United, City, Liverpool, Bolton, Blackburn and, er, Wigan, did the same.

Now that I've thought about it, could our win in 1996 have been in the 96/97 season with the final being before the turn of the year? That would make sense.

And has anyone got a full list of Lancashire Cup winners? I want to see how we fare compared to Liverpool, Everton, United and City. None of this boring "Champions League" rubbish. Who wants to play AC Milan when you can play away at Morcambe?

 

[tangerinedream]

I don't think we enter it either anymore. I think we should though. It would be a good oppurtunity for the reserve and youth players to play in a few semi-competetive games. Especially if the likes of Everton, Man United, City, Liverpool, Bolton, Blackburn and, er, Wigan, did the same.

Now that I've thought about it, could our win in 1996 have been in the 96/97 season with the final being before the turn of the year? That would make sense.

And has anyone got a full list of Lancashire Cup winners? I want to see how we fare compared to Liverpool, Everton, United and City. None of this boring "Champions League" rubbish. Who wants to play AC Milan when you can play away at Morcambe?

I'll have a look for a list. I'm sure I'll find one somewhere. The whole tournament was pre-season no? Hence our 95-96 win was late summer 95?
Yeah Liverpool won a little badge or something for winning the 'champions league' - when were they last champions of Lancashire? eh? (and I mean the proper lancashire - the old boundaries) I reckon they must be too scared to enter or something.

"The bootroom"*

Fagan: - So Bill, we've conquered Europe again, what now?
Shankly: - Aye, well I've been thinkin - What about the Lancashire Cup?
Paisley: - Och, boss no, Not the lancashire cup, we'll never win that, better stick to tin pot cups like we usually win
Fagan: - He's right boss
Shankly: Give Gordan Lee a ring, see what he thinks, if they do it, i'll do it.
Paisley: Already done it boss, Apparantly he went all white when I mentioned the Lancashire Cup, Mick Lyons fainted and Bob Latchford started mumbling about 'going to Birmingham - that's not in Lancashire'.
Shankly: That's that then. We're staying away from that one, Roy put the kettle on
Evans: OK - Oh no Graeme Souness has been here before me and left a right old mess, never mind I'll do my best to sort it out.

*some historical facts may be ever so slightly inacurate.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Far Out!

This thread is getting a bit surreal, isn't it?

As a Blackpool fan, what's your opinion on the Owen Oyston affair?

Whatever he did, I'm sure he wasn't unique--the spooks had it in for him big time? What did/do people in Blackpool think about it all? Or does omerta prevail??

 

[NoCoolNickname]

After much searching I have found this:

Link: http://www.thefootballforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=24085&hl=Lancashire+Cup (posted on 4 June 2004)

LANCASHIRE FA officials met at Leyland yesterday to give the green light to the return of a long-established county cup competition.

The Thurston Road boardroom decision followed talks over recent weeks between several of the county's leading sides.

As a result, Premier League sides Blackburn Rovers and Bolton Wanderers will again do battle in the LFA Challenge Cup alongside six Nationwide League sides from this coming season.

And league officials based at Leyland were hopeful that FA Cup winners Manchester United would rejoin the competition the following season.

The Lancashire 'senior cup', as it is better known, was first held in 1879, but has not been contested since the late 1990s.

Blackburn Rovers are the all-time champion of champions in the contest with 16 wins, five more than next best Bolton Wanderers, Burnley, Liverpool and Manchester United.
The only Red Rose club to come close to that record in Lancashire FA competitions is Chorley, with 13 wins in the 'junior cup', currently known as the Marsden Trophy.

Rovers kick off the new competition at Blackpool, while Bolton Wanderers host Preston North End, Oldham Athletic play Bury, and Burnley take on Rochdale.

The ties will be played on a knockout basis on first team or reserve grounds, and are set to include a mix of first team, reserve and youth players.

First round ties have to be complete by September 1, possibly as pre-season matches.

Taken from bwfc4u.com

Looks like Liverpool win the argument then. remembers that this thread isn't actually about the Marsden Cup but some tin pot so-called "Champions League"

 

[tangerinedream]

This thread is getting a bit surreal, isn't it?

As a Blackpool fan, what's your opinion on the Owen Oyston affair?

Whatever he did, I'm sure he wasn't unique--the spooks had it in for him big time? What did/do people in Blackpool think about it all? Or does omerta prevail??

Bloody Owen Oyston - It's all anyone ever asks . We used to sing "He walks with a stick and he fiddles with his dick, Owen Oyston, Owen Oyston" anyway...

Owen is not well trusted by Pool fans - I don't know enough about the fine details of his trial to comment too much. His argument seemed to be 'I'm a socialist - the big scary men in black suits don't like me' - He came on the pitch once with a microphone when he was on bail - talked about plots and schemes. That was very very very surreal. More entertaining than watching a man in a gorrila suit throw footballs into the west paddock anyway which was the normal pre match build up..
In general the thought in the town was/is , why on earth would such a rich man need to rape someone? - Not a pleasant thought but that's the general feeling amongst Blackpool folk. If you want to pay for sex you certainly can here at the seaside. (not the voice of experience I may add.) - that may not be the most insightful opinion but it does raise a lot of eyebrows amongst people.
He's not trusted because his intentions for the club were blatently linked to getting his own way with the planning commision of the council. Owen would build a 'football ground' which would also be a concert venue, aqaurium, shopping centre 12000 room hotel and drive through vasectomy clinic. The council funniliy enough kept saying no. Owen claimed a plot against him here as well. Again including some waffle about being a socialist. A socialist estate agent (i ask you )
His son (Karl) his now in charge. He's a tight fisted businessman (distinctly unflambouyent - definately no fedora!) who to be fair has done ok, we're solvent and have half a very nice, purpose built FOOTBALL ground. Owen's been seen at the odd game recently. I'd quite like him to put a bit of cash in - with the ground built nearly, he couldn't do too much damage. To be fair to Owen he rescued the club from the shit and very very nearly took us to Div 2 (champinship) when he did put the cash in. When it started kicking off he sold all the decent players and wanted his money back it seems. He claims to have but a lot of his own money into the club to keep us going which he's never recouped. It's probably true.

and what does the latin mean? - [edit] Italian actually meaning this omerta

 

[tangerinedream]

After much searching I have found this:

Link: http://www.thefootballforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=24085&hl=Lancashire+Cup (posted on 4 June 2004)



Looks like Liverpool win the argument then. remembers that this thread isn't actually about the Marsden Cup but some tin pot so-called "Champions League"

Oh well. I was going to email the FA for a list of winners. Still might actually. I'm sure it was played last few years with morcambe etc in it. I remember Jim Kenyon doing the draw on Radio Lancs. That says it hasn't been played since late 90's. Unless the non-league one is the 'junior cup'
I'm sure Ian Chisnall or someone will set me right if I e-mail Radio Lancs and Lancs FA.

EDIT
- I've re-read yr post and clearly I'm getting the marsden trophy confused with the marsden cup.

Still be nice to know who won it when I suppose.

 

[NoCoolNickname]

I'm confused too. Between the Marsden Cup, Marsden Trophy, Lancashire Serior Cup and Lancashire Junior Cup. I thought there was just one of 'em! Let me know if you hear anything about the list of winners.

 

[JTG]

What's wrong with Everton wanting to celebrate a succesful season? A season which saw us legitimately qualify for the Champions League (no need to resort to backdoor entry for us!) and as the best team on Merseyside over 38 games?

No sense of joy some people. Well, not RS fans anyway.

 

[mmmSkyscraper]

What's wrong with Everton wanting to celebrate a succesful season?

Nothing. But do you honestly think the team that played, arguably, the ugliest football all season and stumbled (albeit deservedly) into 4th place should hold a Premiere of the season review? [Fucking cringeing smilie goes here]

Can't say I'm overly surprised though, when people still post up pics of Carsley's goal against us in the derby?!!

Can't wait until next season.

 

[agricola]

I would say your performances against Palace, Burnley and Birmingham were uglier...

 

[mmmSkyscraper]

You can say what you want Agnes, we're the European champions.

 

[NoCoolNickname]

Still be nice to know who won it when I suppose.

http://www.lancashirefa.com/countycups/cuphistory/seniorCup/Roll+Of+Honour+-+Previous+Winners/



Edited to add this lovely image:

That, gentlemen, is a trophy.

 

[tangerinedream]

http://www.lancashirefa.com/countycups/cuphistory/seniorCup/Roll+Of+Honour+-+Previous+Winners/



Edited to add this lovely image:

That, gentlemen, is a trophy.

good work fella! - Liverpool last won it in 72/73 i see.

 

[Andy the Don]

Jesus Larry, you're a funny girl. I took this photo from my seat last week, you know, when we won the European Cup for the fifth time. Despite that, I am still jealous of a team that scraped into 4th in the Prem. Clearly.

When are you going to be giving us a full rundown of your experiences in Istanbul, your 4 hour taxi journey from your resort, the pre-match build up, how you felt at half-time, how you felt at full-time, the pens tell us all about it please..

BTW: It looked like a fantastic night from my sofa & congrats Liverpool.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Obsessed with Everton!!!

 

[R.I.C.O.]

Nothing. But do you honestly think the team that played, arguably, the ugliest football all season and stumbled (albeit deservedly) into 4th place should hold a Premiere of the season review? [Fucking cringeing smilie goes here]

Can't say I'm overly surprised though, when people still post up pics of Carsley's goal against us in the derby?!!

Can't wait until next season.

I think a puking smilie would probably be more appropriate.