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Everton 1 Liverpool 2 - as clear a rigged match as you're likely ever to see.

agricola said:
Yes, and one was a dive, which makes the scoreline at the end of the day 1-1.

Not if you read the much acclaimed article by David Prentice in the Echo, as trumpeted by Larry above. Prentice writes:

"There is no doubt that Tony Hibbert’s challenge was worthy of a dismissal, but it was another decision the official appeared to have got wrong as he took a yellow card from his pocket".

Quite right Prentice you Blue Nose wanker. It was obviously a penalty and a red card. Clattenburg, having never previously awarded a red card in the Premiership, was for some reason reluctant to do so. Gerrard did him a favour by pointing out his folly. By the way, Clattenburg's absence from a Premiership match this coming weekend is for a pre-planned holiday, not a disciplinary issue.

If an Everton player had made a challenge like Kuyt's and been sent off I honestly would have thought it mighty harsh. There was one wrong decision by Clattenburg in that match and that was the failure to award Everton a last minute penalty. Given Everton's goal effort-shy performance and Reina's supreme penalty saving abilities, the result would have stayed 2-1 anyway.

Now then, let's talk about Everton's ill discipline.
 
Biffo said:
Not if you read the much acclaimed article by David Prentice in the Echo, as trumpeted by Larry above. Prentice writes:

"There is no doubt that Tony Hibbert’s challenge was worthy of a dismissal, but it was another decision the official appeared to have got wrong as he took a yellow card from his pocket".

Quite right Prentice you Blue Nose wanker. It was obviously a penalty and a red card. Clattenburg, having never previously awarded a red card in the Premiership, was for some reason reluctant to do so. Gerrard did him a favour by pointing out his folly. By the way, Clattenburg's absence from a Premiership match this coming weekend is for a pre-planned holiday, not a disciplinary issue.

If an Everton player had made a challenge like Kuyt's and been sent off I honestly would have thought it mighty harsh. There was one wrong decision by Clattenburg in that match and that was the failure to award Everton a last minute penalty. Given Everton's goal effort-shy performance and Reina's supreme penalty saving abilities, the result would have stayed 2-1 anyway.

Now then, let's talk about Everton's ill discipline.

Well, I suppose we should be thankful that someone has the honesty from the RS side to at least admit that Lescott didnt dive for the penalty in the last minute.

As for the rest of it, you are speaking nonsense still. Steven "Legs Apart" Gerrard's dive - especially clear was not a penalty - if anything, it was a fifty-fifty challenge where Hibbert was tripped by Gerrard. Also, even Kuyt considers himself lucky that he got away with that challenge - so perhaps its time for the RS to admit to it as well?

As for Clattenburg, heaven forfend that one of the worst referreeing performances, condemned by nearly everyone who isnt Benitez or one of his disciples, in years should actually be punished - unless, of course, one of the "big clubs" is involved.
 
Relahni said:
I think they should be chucked out of Europe.

whereas the pool are doing all they can to chuck themselves out with woeful performances.....bring on Beskitas;)
 
sleaterkinney said:
The Moyesiah is in his usual form:

"Didn't Clattenburg go to Hong Kong with Liverpool for the Asia Cup this summer? Maybe he wants to be their friend."

Oh Dear:

'Moyes misses a sitter - David Moye's attack on Mark Clattenburg, dropped yesterday from the weekend's Premier League fixtures, included the suggestion that the referee favoured Liverpoool in the Merseyside derby because he had officiated in their games in the Premier Leagur Asia Trophy this summer. Moyes clearly did not make the most of Everton's appearance in the 2005 Asia Trophy in Thailand, in which Clattenburg also officiated.'

In todays Guardian
 
agricola said:
Well, I suppose we should be thankful that someone has the honesty from the RS side to at least admit that Lescott didnt dive for the penalty in the last minute.
I wouldn't, here is Lescott doing the exact same move against Metalist

At 4:45

Look familiar?
 
sleaterkinney said:
I wouldn't, here is Lescott doing the exact same move against Metalist

At 4:45

Look familiar?

yes and it's perfectly legal for a forward to back push backwards, it's illegal for a defender to wrap his arms around him and do a sumo throw like that big oaf Carragher did.
 
Now that there are a couple of Mancs on this thread, Villa v Utd....

Did anyone think it odd that Carson got sent off for upending Tevez on Saturday, even though there was a defender level with the ball and another on the goal line. Carson was nowhere near being the last defender but he got a straight red card. Strange.
 
Biffo said:
Now that there are a couple of Mancs on this thread, Villa v Utd....

Did anyone think it odd that Carson got sent off for upending Tevez on Saturday, even though there was a defender level with the ball and another on the goal line. Carson was nowhere near being the last defender but he got a straight red card. Strange.

Thats true, and Reo-Coker's first booking was never a yellow card (though his challenge for the second one when he was already on a yellow was idiocy).
 
revol68 said:
yes and it's perfectly legal for a forward to back push backwards, it's illegal for a defender to wrap his arms around him and do a sumo throw like that big oaf Carragher did.
So, if an attacker pushes backwards against someone and they fall over it's a penalty?.

I'll be keeping an eye on Lescott doing that in future.
 
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