Everton 1 Liverpool 2 - as clear a rigged match as you're likely ever to see.
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London_Calling said:
Well I'm a Liverpool fan, but I'm not a passionate 'supporter'. I haven't seen it but by all accounts Everton had a completely solid penalty claim ignored at the end. As for Liverpool's two I don't know.
But the result was therefore decided in the end by a wrong decision by the ref.
The same was the case in the Liverpool - Chelsea match.
I suppose you must just accept it as part and parcel of football, 'swings and round-a-bouts' and such like.
But I don't understand your point to be honest. Refs are going to make mistakes of course, but it does seem to hapen quite a lot where the whole match hinges on the wrong decision by the ref. The examples above for example and also goals being denied teams for supposed offside.
of course matches can hinge on wrong decisions by the ref. they can also hinge on wrong decisions by goalies and every other player on the pitch. and the manager.
it's part of being human. football is especially susceptible to this because of its low scoring nature. the best team on the day usually wins in rugby for example but that isn't necessarily always true of football, mistakes and luck are a factor.
that's the game, deal with it.
it's part of being human. football is especially susceptible to this because of its low scoring nature. the best team on the day usually wins in rugby for example but that isn't necessarily always true of football, mistakes and luck are a factor.
that's the game, deal with it.
of course there are differences between all the leagues. but I don't necessarily believe that that makes your average Prem game more interesting - especially as I don't watch football in a vacuum, it's all bound up in historical and cultural factors, both personal and general.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Obviously it's higher quality, but his point was that that doesn't necessarily make for better games.
Anyone who has seen a few Liverpool or Chelsea games over the last few years would be able to see that.
Anyone who has seen a few Liverpool or Chelsea games over the last few years would be able to see that.
sleaterkinney
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denniseagle
ding dong the witch is dead
Epico said:The second liverpool goal wasn't a penalty.
Haven't seen it yet, just had a couple of quid on 1-1
Thats Englands new keeper Phil 'safe hands' Neville at least he pushes the ball somewhere 'safe' unlike the present incumbent who pats it down to the opposing striker to play with.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
Larry O'Hara said:
you're so bitter it's funny Was Moyes crying when he finally came out for a PMI
His eyes looked as red as his hair
Robbed you were. hehe
Larry O'Hara said:
1. It was clearly a penalty.
2. It was clearly a red card offence.
3. Agree that Carragher's foul on Lescott at the end should have been a pen. If a pen had been awarded Reina would've saved it anyway. Everton had one shot on target in the whole game ffs. Useless.
4. There were 5 subs in the 2nd half. 30 secs per sub is usually awarded by the ref re added on time. 3 added minutes were on the 4th official's board.
5. Kuyt was clearly trying to block the ball. A tad wreckless and a yellow card was fair.
BFs were losers, plain and simple.
BFs = Bitter fuckers.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
I suppose my view would be a very few match outcomes are influenced by key refereering decisions - do remember there have been a lot of Premiership matches between the two games you cite (Chelsea at Liverpool and yesterday at Everton). Most decisions are great, a few - the ones you remember - are bad.EddyBlack said:
TBH, I'm really not interested in allowing tv any more influence in the sport - even if it is through the back door in this way - and I'm not even interested in criticising people for making the occasional wrong decision, even if it is deemed 'important'. I really don't want sport to be media perfect, especially as it's done okay up to now.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Outrageous, but then the RS have always been like that, and noone I know is that surprised - the first one was never a penalty, never a sending off, and Kuyt's challenge on Neville must surely attract a much greater penalty than it did. Nor should anyone be surprised by the antics of the RS here.
However I did take great exception to Benitez accusing Lescott of diving at the end of the game on Sky - its bad enough cheating, but to accuse someone of doing likewise when they were wrestled to the ground in front of the nation, is too much.
ps: I do also maintain my position that the sooner someone is able to watch replays and inform the referee so they make the right decision in the Premiership, the better.
However I did take great exception to Benitez accusing Lescott of diving at the end of the game on Sky - its bad enough cheating, but to accuse someone of doing likewise when they were wrestled to the ground in front of the nation, is too much.
ps: I do also maintain my position that the sooner someone is able to watch replays and inform the referee so they make the right decision in the Premiership, the better.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
The Moyesiah is in his usual form:
"Didn't Clattenburg go to Hong Kong with Liverpool for the Asia Cup this summer? Maybe he wants to be their friend."
"Didn't Clattenburg go to Hong Kong with Liverpool for the Asia Cup this summer? Maybe he wants to be their friend."
DRINK?
bummed by karmachameleon
Too be honest Liverpool were lucky though sh*t happens, decisions are called wrong time and time again....what really f*cked me off though was Rafa after the game.... making out Lescott dived etc etc...yeah you want to defend your team though he came out of the post match interview looking more of tw*t than he normally does....I used to like the guy
big eejit
She looks like Alan Gilzean
Fair report on the game in today's Guardian:
http://football.guardian.co.uk/Match_Report/0,,2196382,00.html
"The Scot's intention to refrain from referee assassination wilted as Mark Clattenburg's inept handling of the 206th Merseyside derby created incident in a football desert. Defeat at the feet of a player who should not have been on the pitch to convert the final blow and two suspensions are a heavy price for the official's performance. It is, though, an accurate summary of Everton grievance on an afternoon when Clattenburg courted accusations of enjoying an uncomfortable pal's act with Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher.
"They [Liverpool players] were always in there with him and maybe he wants to be friendly with them," said Moyes, whose mood will not be helped by the two pages in Gerrard's autobiography in which he eulogises Clattenburg and Graham Poll as "the best refs around . . . top drawer . . . never influenced by the occasion".
Moyes' ire began to be fuelled when Tony Hibbert invited a red card for pulling down Gerrard inside the penalty area for the derby's pivotal moment, a card that had initially appeared to be yellow. Of more genuine grievance was the subsequent failure to dismiss Dirk Kuyt for a two-footed lunge on Phil Neville and the unfathomable decision not to award the third clear spot-kick of the afternoon when Carragher dragged Joleon Lescott to the floor in the final act.
"That is as tough as I have ever had it from a referee, especially in a big game. Just incredible," added Moyes, who denied further evidence of officialdom's leniency towards the top four but could not help departing with the cynical: "Didn't he go to Asia with Liverpool for the Asian Cup this summer?"
Benítez played similar games with the referee's contribution, delivering his now obligatory barb at his local rivals to insist Lescott had somehow dived with a 12st Scouser pulling at his shoulders..."
Benitez has no class at all. Hope Liverpool don't get rid of him any time soon. He suits them.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/Match_Report/0,,2196382,00.html
"The Scot's intention to refrain from referee assassination wilted as Mark Clattenburg's inept handling of the 206th Merseyside derby created incident in a football desert. Defeat at the feet of a player who should not have been on the pitch to convert the final blow and two suspensions are a heavy price for the official's performance. It is, though, an accurate summary of Everton grievance on an afternoon when Clattenburg courted accusations of enjoying an uncomfortable pal's act with Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher.
"They [Liverpool players] were always in there with him and maybe he wants to be friendly with them," said Moyes, whose mood will not be helped by the two pages in Gerrard's autobiography in which he eulogises Clattenburg and Graham Poll as "the best refs around . . . top drawer . . . never influenced by the occasion".
Moyes' ire began to be fuelled when Tony Hibbert invited a red card for pulling down Gerrard inside the penalty area for the derby's pivotal moment, a card that had initially appeared to be yellow. Of more genuine grievance was the subsequent failure to dismiss Dirk Kuyt for a two-footed lunge on Phil Neville and the unfathomable decision not to award the third clear spot-kick of the afternoon when Carragher dragged Joleon Lescott to the floor in the final act.
"That is as tough as I have ever had it from a referee, especially in a big game. Just incredible," added Moyes, who denied further evidence of officialdom's leniency towards the top four but could not help departing with the cynical: "Didn't he go to Asia with Liverpool for the Asian Cup this summer?"
Benítez played similar games with the referee's contribution, delivering his now obligatory barb at his local rivals to insist Lescott had somehow dived with a 12st Scouser pulling at his shoulders..."
Benitez has no class at all. Hope Liverpool don't get rid of him any time soon. He suits them.
