Eve Online
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Crispy said:
^ This.
I played for a couple of months back in 2005. It's big and beautiful.
Anarcho-Capitalism innit.
My main problem was you cannot queue skill training. "Ohh I'd better log in Matari Frigate 5 will be done by now!"
*Many hours later*
Alright alright I admit it. If I could have sleep surgically removed I'd probably still be playing.
need help let me know.povmcdov said:Basicly my alliance is in the process of taking over a neigbouring bit of space that is much better than what we have now. It used to belong to some guys who we fought for months a while back and then had an uneasy truce. They became unreasonable over a trifling issue so war broke out. We have pretty much won now and most corporations belonging to our enemy have left, leaving a few people who are carrying out guerrilla type operations against us.
Rik's lot had an agreement with our enemy to live in their space. When we won, they started making demands for the space we had gained rather than just asking and negotiating for it. Thats not a very clever idea with usI believe we gave them safe passage out of the area, but I havent been on for a couple of days.
We also have a fundamental philosophical difference from them, in that they will kill anyone who isnt allied to them on sight, whereas we do not attack neutrals, only those we consider to be enemies.
TAE: The interface is the worst part of the game unfortunately. You will get used to it soon though. Make sure you do all the missions that your starter agent gives you. They should then refer you to a "storyline" agent. Do that mission and you should be given an implant you can sell for quite a lot. If you stick with it then make sure you join a player corporation because they are what make the game worth playing. A good one to start with is "Eve University" who will teach you about most aspects of the game for nothing. Griefers tend to declare war on eve uni regularly, but they usually fight back very sucessfully.
kiyoshi aphelion says somthing about you guys taking a vote and acting like a bunch of nancies and pansies.
he says that he is planning to come back and bitchslap and pod you all
he says if you want a true explanation of what happened then please see kiyoshi aphelion. otherwise stop spreading lies or he willc ome and pod you forever and ever.
truth he says that you asked us what constellation we wanted but you guys said you wanted all of sydicate so we said we would leave. (so glad i dont follow the politics.)
anyways he says somthign about you lot now about to get podded alot from the mercs.
i think he was quite annoyed when i copied and pasted your comments. LOL
he also says to clearly state to you. "tell him to quit telling lies or i will come and podd you over and over again until you lose all your skill points." hahaha
too funny. he is still ranting on vent.
now he just resigned.. pussy..... i tell ya.. some 40 years olds have worse rants than some of the teens.
Yeah, the politics are a bit of a pain at times, but theyre usually entertaining enough. Hes welcome to come and try to pod me, but I dont expect He'll have much luck - I dont think I've been podded for months now, and eve then it was a disposo-clone that I suicided into a gatecamp. TBH, at the moment I'm generally spending most of my time doing invention and other manufacturing, so I'm not even in space much. Even if I am I'm usually inside a POS shield. I really must get some PvP soon, but the money is too good to stop right now.
I'd far rather take the word of my own corpmate than him anyway. We dont make snap decisions in response to negotiations, as we are not a dictatorship. We dont vote either, unless we are unable to come to a clear consensus, which 9/10 times we can.
We really arent worried about the mercs. They fight well and we are enjoying the change from fighting OSS.
It depends how you want to play it. A lot of corporations are actually run on collectivised lines, where everything gets handed to the corp. The corp then supplies everything the members need. A lot of the most effective PvP corps are run on those lines because it allows close control of the composition of the fleet. The problem is that a strong corp or alliance needs industrialist characters too to actually generate income (piracy is usually a loss making business). Pure industrialists dont tend to want to join corps that have that outlook for obvious reasons, so communistic corps have to be made up of self sufficient players with second characters that handle the money making side enabling the main to PvP without constantly having to go away and grind for ISK.
I'm personally involved in a co-operative type group for my invention activities. Individually none of us could have been as successful as we are now. All our resources are pooled and we all get equal payouts every month. We sell at just above cost to friends, and sell at fair prices to those we don't know. We make more money than most, but are generally generous with it, helping out newer players in our corp etc.
I know one guy in game who is a ruthless capitalist though. He runs an in-game bank and a shares based scheme (IPO). Investors have a choice of 2 accounts with different rates of compound interest, or can buy shares upon which he pays a dividend. He uses the money to invest in trading, moving items from trade hubs to lawless space and selling at a profit. In 3 or 4 months he's personally made enough cash to buy a mothership, the second largest ship in the game. Most of these supercapital ships are owned by corporations, yet he has his own personal one....
If he were to sell the ISK for real cash, by the standard market prices he would make about $750.
The problem with this guy though, is his main concern is his bottom line. I dont think he really does any discounts for his own alliance mates, although to be fair he does a lot of work for the organisation. Its all just like the real world in microcosm.
I'd far rather take the word of my own corpmate than him anyway. We dont make snap decisions in response to negotiations, as we are not a dictatorship. We dont vote either, unless we are unable to come to a clear consensus, which 9/10 times we can.
We really arent worried about the mercs. They fight well and we are enjoying the change from fighting OSS.
It depends how you want to play it. A lot of corporations are actually run on collectivised lines, where everything gets handed to the corp. The corp then supplies everything the members need. A lot of the most effective PvP corps are run on those lines because it allows close control of the composition of the fleet. The problem is that a strong corp or alliance needs industrialist characters too to actually generate income (piracy is usually a loss making business). Pure industrialists dont tend to want to join corps that have that outlook for obvious reasons, so communistic corps have to be made up of self sufficient players with second characters that handle the money making side enabling the main to PvP without constantly having to go away and grind for ISK.
I'm personally involved in a co-operative type group for my invention activities. Individually none of us could have been as successful as we are now. All our resources are pooled and we all get equal payouts every month. We sell at just above cost to friends, and sell at fair prices to those we don't know. We make more money than most, but are generally generous with it, helping out newer players in our corp etc.
I know one guy in game who is a ruthless capitalist though. He runs an in-game bank and a shares based scheme (IPO). Investors have a choice of 2 accounts with different rates of compound interest, or can buy shares upon which he pays a dividend. He uses the money to invest in trading, moving items from trade hubs to lawless space and selling at a profit. In 3 or 4 months he's personally made enough cash to buy a mothership, the second largest ship in the game. Most of these supercapital ships are owned by corporations, yet he has his own personal one....
If he were to sell the ISK for real cash, by the standard market prices he would make about $750.The problem with this guy though, is his main concern is his bottom line. I dont think he really does any discounts for his own alliance mates, although to be fair he does a lot of work for the organisation. Its all just like the real world in microcosm.
Theres actually a bit of grind, but its grind for money, not for skills. In that way it is not meaningless compared to WoW, where you have to keep hitting things just to progress your character. The best way to cut it out is to have two characters that train mutually supporting skills and that way you can maximise profits, or just keep one mining constantly in safe space and making money while you do more fun things on your main character. Working in groups makes things more profitable and less tedious too.
There needs to be a bit of grind anyway. Without it nothing would matter as much when you lost a ship etc. The first time I got attacked I got a major adrenaline rush because I really didnt want to lose the ship that I had worked hours towards.
In any case, a lot of stuff that sounds boring, like mining, can be livened up a lot by beer and good conversation with your corpmates. The fact that its all on one server (35,000 concurrent players) makes the social side of it pretty good, as proved by the fact that a big chunk of the playerbase are going to iceland at the end of the month to a big pissup/convention in rekyavik.
I have to say though, that unlike WoW, there arent many women playing this game. Its ruthless nature and lack of elves ruins its chance with the ladies! I think its about 5% of playerbase compared to 45% for WoW. Having said that I know of two couples who have met through eve, and one of the more prominant pirate groups has a female fleet commander, so it appeals to some.
Eve online seems to be down, both www.eve-online.com and the Tranquility server.
Edited to add:
http://www.eve-online-fan.co.uk/comments.php?id=2306
Edited to add:
http://www.eve-online-fan.co.uk/comments.php?id=2306
Kanda
Diving wanker
TAE said:
Down all day so far, I'm starting to get a bit pissed off!!! My skills have finished training on both accounts!!!
That was my first thought when I heard 'emergency shutdown'.povmcdov said:The rumor is that the server has been hacked
Mind you, I'm sure others had the same thought, which could explain why such a rumor started.
Anyway, launching anti-virus scan just in case.
Nasty sounding rumor here:
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/thread/152127
This quote from one of their Elite Members seems quite sensible to me:
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/thread/152127
This quote from one of their Elite Members seems quite sensible to me:
