Euskadi VS Wales

[ddraig]

a Basque flag, in an Irish pub in Cardiff, Wales earlier today

 

[editor]

are u honestly trying to claim your post wasn't in response to me?

So you do think of yourself as a one-man 'Leftist group' then?!

Do you have one-man meetings and have a vote about what's for breakfast?

 

[cathal marcs]

Yeah sorry, you've got him entirely the wrong way round. In his own inimicable way what he does is take the piss out of lefties who support "oppressed" "nations'" teams on "political" grounds.

So it’s ok to frequently verbally abuse someone for no reason as he may have a point? Im sorry IP it’s not acceptable behaviour and only deflects any valid criticisms he has. He has no reason to speak tome in that way I can’t remember ever insulting him in such a manner and it completely unwarranted.

AFAIK the folk whove been implicated in Revols diatribe myself and editor have not talked about "Oppressed nations" for being interested in this game and my reasons for liking the Basque country are from fond memories having spent a lot of time in the region. Their also their happens to be a fair few Welsh folk on this forum who it maybe of interest.

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

Well Wales ar eplaying the Basque region so it's a valid topic isn't it.

Plus all th elinks between the two.

Th eproblem I see with this petty nationalisn jibe is that if it's suppressed and there's no outlet for a bit of respect for how you feel, i.e. whatever tribe,community. religion you identify with , it doesn't go away , it simmers.
Look at the break up o fthe USSR or Yougoslavis, the dividing lines were there like it or not, they festered and manifest themselves in horrific ways.

Give me a bit of flag waving anyday.

 

[revol68]

Well Wales ar eplaying the Basque region so it's a valid topic isn't it.

Plus all th elinks between the two.

Th eproblem I see with this petty nationalisn jibe is that if it's suppressed and there's no outlet for a bit of respect for how you feel, i.e. whatever tribe,community. religion you identify with , it doesn't go away , it simmers.
Look at the break up o fthe USSR or Yougoslavis, the dividing lines were there like it or not, they festered and manifest themselves in horrific ways.

Give me a bit of flag waving anyday.

absolute nonsense, your taking nationalisms as some sort of inate drive rather than complex constructs and subjective narratives. The idea that the former Yugoslavia went to pieces was because the only think keeping natural ethnic enemies apart was strong authoritarianism. That is complete tripe that serves to stop any proper analysis of the situation, the role of local elites and oppurtunist ex communists in reconstructing nationalist histories and seeking to expand their own interests.

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

absolute nonsense, your taking nationalisms as some sort of inate drive rather than complex constructs and subjective narratives. The idea that the former Yugoslavia went to pieces was because the only think keeping natural ethnic enemies apart was strong authoritarianism. That is complete tripe that serves to stop any proper analysis of the situation, the role of local elites and oppurtunist ex communists in reconstructing nationalist histories and seeking to expand their own interests.

can you explain that in terms I understand please?

 

[editor]

absolute nonsense, your taking nationalisms as some sort of inate drive rather than complex constructs and subjective narratives. The idea that the former Yugoslavia went to pieces was because the only think keeping natural ethnic enemies apart was strong authoritarianism. That is complete tripe that serves to stop any proper analysis of the situation, the role of local elites and oppurtunist ex communists in reconstructing nationalist histories and seeking to expand their own interests.

What's this got to do with a football game?

 

[guinnessdrinker]

absolute nonsense, your taking nationalisms as some sort of inate drive rather than complex constructs and subjective narratives. The idea that the former Yugoslavia went to pieces was because the only think keeping natural ethnic enemies apart was strong authoritarianism. That is complete tripe that serves to stop any proper analysis of the situation, the role of local elites and oppurtunist ex communists in reconstructing nationalist histories and seeking to expand their own interests.

this is the sport forum. why don't you start a thread in politics, instead?

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

My fault - I was trying to make a point about suppressing ' petty nationalism' and people needing belonging and respect that can manifest itself in football.

I've just driven my sister and her fiance whose French to the match , she in a French top and he in a Welsh top, they are both fluent in each others language. he's explained the CPE situation in France and the stucdents riots there.Driving through town is cracking , people mixing, barriers broken down.

Vive la difference!

 

[Oxpecker]

I had tremendous fun over in Bilbao, the atmosphere was crackling before and after the game. The game itself was of a surprisingly high standard and, of course, we won. At the end of the match the Welsh fans were chanting Euskadi! Euskadi! and the Basques were coming back with Wa -ales! Wa-ales!

Enough to bring a tear to a glass eye

 

[editor]

At the end of the match the Welsh fans were chanting Euskadi! Euskadi! and the Basques were coming back with Wa -ales! Wa-ales!

What a dreadful outbreak of disgusting nationalism!



Sounds like you had a great time. And the best team won, natch.
Who needs the World Cup?

<cough!>

 

[meurig]

I had tremendous fun over in Bilbao, the atmosphere was crackling before and after the game. The game itself was of a surprisingly high standard and, of course, we won. At the end of the match the Welsh fans were chanting Euskadi! Euskadi! and the Basques were coming back with Wa -ales! Wa-ales!

Enough to bring a tear to a glass eye

Sniff. Dwi'n crio nawr.

 

[Pee Pee]

Im off to the Basque Country in August. Going on a sort of road trippy. If anyone has been there and can recommend where to stay and what to see, me and the rest of the gang would appreciate it loads.

 

[Oxpecker]

Sniff. Dwi'n crio nawr.

There were plenty of Welsh flags and singing around the ground.

This one's for Revol

 

[editor]

There were plenty of Welsh flags and singing around the ground.

This one's for Revol

Respect that flag!

 

[cathal marcs]

Good to see you had a cracking time

Heres some photos of the day before game of Atletic Bilbao Vs Barcelona a few Herri Norte Taldea lads had amnesty banners for ETA POWs.

 

[ddraig]

Im off to the Basque Country in August. Going on a sort of road trippy. If anyone has been there and can recommend where to stay and what to see, me and the rest of the gang would appreciate it loads.

go to the top of the mountain behind the bay, steep climb to an amazing view

 

[Treacle Toes]

The Basque Country is a very big place and has lots of different regions...Which part are you going to?

You are pretty much spoilt for choice there, mountains, countryside, busy little cities, beaches the lot.....

 

[Dai Sheep]

There were plenty of Welsh flags and singing around the ground.

This one's for Revol

nice flag