Euskadi VS Wales
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editor
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Ah, the voice of...er.....well, just about no one really.revol68 said:
If you can't enjoy seeing the passion and rivalry between two friendly nations meeting up to celebrate their cultures, watch a great game and crack a few beers together, why not crawl back into your webellious little dreamland?
Meanwhile, on the terraces, a predominantly working class crowd will enjoy a cracking game of football and your thoughts will be as relevant to them and their lives as the last Menswear single.
revol68
what, fucking what?
editor said:
i have no fucking problem whatsoever with watching the game, fuck even got a bit passionate watching norn iron knock the shit out the bloated english supastars, but anyone with even an once of critical faculty would know exactly why cathal marcs is so taken with what is the International equivalent of watching Scunthorpe play Huddersfield. Namely the cunt likes to inject his shite nationalism into fucking everything!
And just out of interest, what are these cultures that they will be celebrating? As if there exists a welsh or basque culture in a meaningful sense, it's as reactionary and mystical as the often talked of "english culture" or "Britishness".
Harold Hill
Jay Emm forgot his p/word
Brockway said:Who did you lose to in the end? I've forgotten.
Nobody
revol68
what, fucking what?
editor said:
not especially, but as much as it maintains and perpeuates the idea of cultures being anchored to a nation state or as being homogenous and hermeutically sealed then yes it is.
There is no unified Welsh culture, welsh culture today is the manics (raised on Marx and the Situs), Coronation Street and deindustrialisation, the mining towns that have went down the shitter have much more in common with my hometown than they do with Cardiff.
editor
hiraethified
It's one of the oldest languages spoken in the world, yet you're claiming that merely speaking it is 'reactionary'!revol68 said:
Aren't you being even more reactionary by conversing in English?
Well, that's your opinion, but I doubt very much you have the slightest clue what you're on about if your hometown isn't in Wales.revol68 said:
Where is it?
Placid Casual27
Gorau Chwarae Cyd Chwarae
Cathal, Ed, 1927, others - as a Wales home and away boy this is an interesting one - esp. as one of the best mates of the mighty 1927 Club (a Jack, though, heaven forbid, and proud owner of a big Basque Jacks basque flag) moved to Bilbao 6 years ago to live with his Bilbaoista girlfriend, before having a son who now has the only Wales shirt in Bilbao
I'm sure Easyjet fly to Bilbao - and it's a great trip, for the Guggenheim, the San Mames, the vibe and the pintxos (spelling may be scoobied there), - though admittedly San Sebastian is better on this front.
Not sure how many Wales will go - it clashes with the play-off finals so that's the Cardiff fans ruled out to start with (as if).
For the serious geek we are also playing Trinidad and Tobago in Graz (yes, I know) so they should be the most surreal trips since a Bobby Twat Gould "inspired" Wales side lost 2-1 to Orient at Brisbane Road in 1996.
Cathal, go, it'll be fucking great. I'm a dad now so ruled out for a wee while. That tracky top looks the nuts by the way
I'm sure Easyjet fly to Bilbao - and it's a great trip, for the Guggenheim, the San Mames, the vibe and the pintxos (spelling may be scoobied there), - though admittedly San Sebastian is better on this front.
Not sure how many Wales will go - it clashes with the play-off finals so that's the Cardiff fans ruled out to start with (as if).
For the serious geek we are also playing Trinidad and Tobago in Graz (yes, I know) so they should be the most surreal trips since a Bobby Twat Gould "inspired" Wales side lost 2-1 to Orient at Brisbane Road in 1996.
Cathal, go, it'll be fucking great. I'm a dad now so ruled out for a wee while. That tracky top looks the nuts by the way
revol68
what, fucking what?
editor said:
it's in northern ireland.
Shithole in east antrim which used to a lot of industrial jobs.
Of course if you see geographical positioning as more important than the actual lived materiality of people in shaping a culture I think you need to go back to pre feudalism.
Of course we could always reduce culture to a nice little "cultural festival" were people read shit poems and talk about Druid bollox, but I being somewhat half witted I see culture as rooted in peoples day to day lives ie shopping in Tescos, leaving the kids to school, watching Hollyoaks, getting pissed cos there is fuck all else to do.....
revol68
what, fucking what?
and I never said speaking the welsh language in itself was reactionary at all, thank you very much!
However it can't be denied that the Welsh language is something of a political football for nationalist muppets, and that in trying to engineer it back into most peoples daily lives will never work. Look at the republic of Ireland, the more it pushed the Irish language the more it has collapsed.
However it can't be denied that the Welsh language is something of a political football for nationalist muppets, and that in trying to engineer it back into most peoples daily lives will never work. Look at the republic of Ireland, the more it pushed the Irish language the more it has collapsed.
editor
hiraethified
It's also the language that has been spoken in the same geographical area for hundreds of years, way before English was spoken - and it's growing in popularity again.revol68 said:
Do you think that's a bad thing, then?
Oh, and I think you'll find that only a tiny minority of Welsh speakers are 'nationalist muppets,' so why are you so keen to slap the negative stereotyping brush around so vigorously?
revol68 said:
has provence got a football team, as well
revol68 said:
the basque language was repressed for years and is making a come through all the basque primary and secondary providedby the would be basque state.
personally, if I could go there, i'd shout for Euskadi (sorry, editor, we shall differ on this one).
g force said:
something to do with criticising ETA or something, I vaguely remember.
Onket said:
I never football and hardly ever enter this forum. I am preparing myself to enjoy revol68 tirades against my nationalistic frames of mind and shout for euskera and euskadi (against the dreaded castillans, but that is another forum)
cathal marcs
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revol68 said:
Any need for me being called a 'cunt'?
This was actually a fairly well tempered thread with no major arguments until your volatile presence graced us. The thing that’s sad is I actually assume you are probably a nice person in reality and I actually quite enjoy reading some of your posts why act like such a jumped up teenager that’s had his first drink and thinks he’s big when you’re on the internet?
What makes you think I am interested in this for 'nationalist' reasons do you not maybe think im interested in the Basque country as I have actually spent a lot of time there with good friends and have very fond memories of the region? the only person injecting 'shite nationalism' is yourself mate.
Interests in languages especially the Basque etc are also good for anthropological information it’s not merely a nationalist discourse.
cathal marcs
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fanta said:
A dreadfull indie band in the ilk of Shed Seven. Sadly I know who they are wish I never
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
Brockway said:Who did you lose to in the end? I've forgotten.
No one, the second round was based on a league format & England went out after drawing nil-nil against finalists Germany & Spain.
