Eurovision 2018

Discussion in 'books, films, TV, radio & writing' started by Dr. Furface, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. Dr. Furface

    Dr. Furface One small step for man

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  2. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    Another nil points year I think, not that the songs are bad, just none of them have any chance of winning Eurovision.

    The Goldstone one probably has the best chance of at least scraping several points.

    Then again, last years winner was a bit mellon collie
     
  3. Vintage Paw

    Vintage Paw dead stare and computer glare

    I'm listening to the songs now. I shall post my thoughts as I go.

    SuRie, Storm -- this does sound very Eurovisz, but isn't particularly memorable. It's not a nil pointer, but it's not a top 10 either.

    Jaz Ellington, You -- pleasant enough but not in the least bit Eurovisz, and a tale of shagging one girl while you're in love with another isn't really the message we want to represent us is it?

    Liam Tamne, Astronaut -- eh. It's fine, and he's super hot which is a plus (Eurovisz likes it's solo hot dudes at the moment), but it's not especially memorable. However, it has the potential to be good with some technically spectacular staging, the astronaut theme could lend itself to some of that weird animation/light show/drawings on the backdrop type stuff that everyone goes gaga over, but then it's the technical people winning and not the song...

    Raya, Crazy -- I can see this on the stage, it's typical Eurovisz fare but it's not a high scorer. Bottom half of the score board.

    Asanda, Legends -- Same as the last one, I can see this on the stage, it sounds Eurovisz, it's a bit repetitive, but I like it more than Crazy. Bottom half of the score board again, though.

    Goldstone, I Feel the Love -- the only group and the only song with a title that has more than one word. The lyrics have a Eurovisz sentiment ("I feel the love in my city" wtf lol) but god it's a shit song. Bottom 5.

    So, to sum up, I think SuRie has the most Eurovisz song, but it's not a winner. Liam Tamne's song could do well but only with the right staging and of course we're not going to see the staging tonight. Asanda's song comes third, but is sadly too repetitive to do very well. Raya comes a close fourth, with Jaz and Goldstone trailing miserably behind.
     
  4. Vintage Paw

    Vintage Paw dead stare and computer glare

    My annual recommendation to follow Kit Lovelace (@kitlovelace) on Twitter for the best technical commentary. He's been creating a 'science of Eurovision' for the past few years, studying what makes a winner and what makes a loser. He gives a breakdown of each song's merits and scores them accordingly. An indispensable accompaniment to the night's festivities.
     
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  5. Vintage Paw

    Vintage Paw dead stare and computer glare

    Watching the show live my order of preference remained the same, although Asanda didn't perform as well as the song needed, but she's only 16!

    Liam's song would have required the proper staging and since they're not having led screens in Lisbon that was a big red flag (that's definitely the reason they mentioned it at that point). In the end the right song won, although Kit Lovelace is cautioning us about sending a Major key, the fact it's about storms is a good thing.

    I maintain it's not a top 10 on the leaderboard song, but I don't think it's a bottom 10 either... roll on May!
     
  6. seeformiles

    seeformiles Lost in the wood

    If Eurovision is sticking a musical thermometer up the backside of Europe to take the political temperature, I reckon Brexit will mean nul points all round from our neighbours even if our song went to No.1 all over the world. Not really sure why we bother anymore tbh.
     
  7. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    it doesnt work that way. UK got 111 points last year (after Brexit)
    The UK loses because it always has shit songs
    and why do you think everyone in Europe hates the UK because of Brexit? Quite a popular idea around Europe seems to me. If Europeans dont like the UK its not to do with Brexit...
     
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  8. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I had the misfortune to listen to the winning song. It's like ten bland songs all shunted together to create a towering pillar of shitness.
     
  9. Lucy Fur

    Lucy Fur Well-Known Member

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  10. Dr. Furface

    Dr. Furface One small step for man

    Think yourself lucky you didn't hear the other 5!
     
  11. seeformiles

    seeformiles Lost in the wood

    Yep it’s true that it’s a tad simplistic to blame Brexit as there’s plenty of other factors at play here. I suppose we’ve been trying to raise our game as regards quality of songs in recent years - rather than treat it as a joke and put in any old crap. Expansion of competing countries and block voting is probably a bigger factor - not to mention regional musical taste. 20 years ago, any entry with any hint of a middle eastern musical scale and flavour was doomed but now, with the Balkans and Russia, it’s mainstream. Perhaps with UK and US still dominating popular music we get a bit arrogant. I stand corrected :)
     
  12. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    you know i dont think its as complicated as all that...last year that super quirky no-drum jazz ballad, sung in Portuguese won it by a distance. It really comes down to the tune and performance having a certain something. Another year its Finnish metal. Another year its a cheeky smiling boy with a fiddle.
    Rutita1 has called the winner two years in a row now...id check with her for any betting tips!
     
  13. seeformiles

    seeformiles Lost in the wood

    I liked last year’s winner since it stood apart from all the bombastic power ballads with their big drums and flames that seem to have dominated for a while now.:)
     
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  14. Vintage Paw

    Vintage Paw dead stare and computer glare

    Mr Portugal last year reminded me of 2008's Sebastien Tellier for France (2008 remains my favourite Eurovision year, which also brought us head-scratching weirdness from Spain, these swashbucklers from Latvia, this misplaced attempt to recreate Lordi's success by Finland, this delight by Azerbaijan, this camp marvel from Ukraine, this (ultimately futile) message of hope from Georgia, the part-man part-wolf from Lithuania, Bulgaria's visionary attempt, this euro-poppy piece from the most aptly-named band in the contest from Iceland, Andorra's entry which was very much of its time, Portugal's passionate entry, my joint fave of the evening from Bosnia & Herzegovina, and of course the iconic winner from Russia - but wait, we cannot forget this... interesting outing from Ireland), despite the tone of the song being different it had that off-beat quirk to it.
     
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  15. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Just realised this is a week away!
     
  16. copliker

    copliker ...

    Plucky Macedonia has cod reggae verses. #brave

     
  17. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    a little bit of cod last year from spain too iirc
     
  18. copliker

    copliker ...

    Last place with 5 pity points from Portugal. Never go full cod.
     
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  19. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

  20. copliker

    copliker ...

    Israel has got a woman doing a chicken impression and France is the most little bit communism one.
     
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  21. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    I have called it correctly the last two years running...am I set for a hat trick? :hmm: ;)
     
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  22. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    Fucking hell they have covered all bases with this...over the top sexualised reggae/soft rock/pop ballad/brit pop-guitar nonsense with 80's synth outfits :D
     
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  23. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    I don't like to play these before the big night... Spoils the novelty
     
  24. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    Well I already did play that one obviously...it won't win. You heard it here first. ;)
     
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  25. Vintage Paw

    Vintage Paw dead stare and computer glare

    Israel is going to win. The opera singer will come second.
     
  26. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Not what they want but what is good for them

    ah fuck, I have just realised I will be on the road that week . will have to find a bar to watch it somehow
     
  27. copliker

    copliker ...

    Cyprus reggaeton woman is the favourite now. I think she was 50-1 a couple of weeks ago. She burns a posh car (gentrifiers, petrolheads) in the vid and mentions the pelican, symbol of protection and self sacrifice.

     
  28. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    Is there actually anything interesting worth tuning in for - i.e. something equivalent to Lordi or the porn tastic Polish milk maids?
     
  29. copliker

    copliker ...

    San Marino has little dancing robots.
     
  30. Vintage Paw

    Vintage Paw dead stare and computer glare

    Boring as shit, that. Unless they change the arrangement I can’t see it translating into anything interesting on the stage.
     
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