Discussion in 'Euro 2016' started by Onket, Jun 25, 2014.
The only thing spoiling it for me is all the other teams making our chaps look incompetent.
I don't think I can really agree with that despite being pleased that Ireland did alright and also that Wales and, in particular, Iceland are still in after much more fancied sides are out. The football has often been a bit dull.
There's been some gripping games but few, if any, classics. That said, the quarters and semis often produce them so time will tell.
Germany / Italy could be a cracker, as could Wales / Belgium if they both go for it, but yeah, I could probably count on one hand the number of good games from start to finish.
Too much caution and defensive slow build up overall, only a couple of teams like Hungary and Croatia have really gone for the throats of teams.
Come on, Iceland!
Every game looks potentially mouthwatering from now on.
Is this the first major tournement where they play that fucking song (or any song) over the tannoys after a goal?
It's so shit. It actually kills the celebrations off.
I presume you mean the dum-----dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-----dum one? I raised on a resurrected White Stripes thread that whilst it's quite a catchy hook, there are limits to how much you can play something.
Come on, Iceland!
Oh god. Poor Iceland.
Joachim Löw and Mats Hummels criticise expanded format of Euro 2016
"Sometimes you get the feeling it’s not doing football any good. The quality is suffering"
Couldn't agree more... dullest tournament I can remember..
Funny how people always seem to slag things off after they've been eliminated.
As a little experiment I was wondering what it would look like if you ranked all of the last 16 qualifiers on their group performance and then seeded them.
It looks like this;
Fra vs NI
Spa vs Bel
Wal vs Slo
Ita vs Swz
Ger vs Port
Pol vs Ice
Cro vs RoI
Hun vs Eng
Better? I dunno. It throws up a group stage rematch, but would potentially make for some tastier games as the tournament progressed
wooptee fucking doo
Too many games? They played 6 games over the course of 3 1/2 weeks. My heart bleeds.
Now if they'd have shown some consistancy in the quality of their own game over 90mins last night, I might be bothered.
Just sounds like sour grapes.
Eta: I'm sure the Welsh and Icelandic lads are thrilled that their brilliant perfornances occured in the dullest tournement in years. Why didn't Löw just add the classic, "they dragged us down to their level" cliche, the bitter prick.
Shearer: "This game sums the tournament up for me, pretty dull, pretty boring..."
It's not been the best tournament, but I will miss it all the same. I really do love international tournaments.
Bring on 2018 and... oh, Russia. Right.
MOTD not mentioning Wales!
Enguuland al the way.
I dont think souljacker and pocketscience were fair on Joachim Lows entirely justified criticism of the expanded format. Firstly he complained about it before the tournament, as did many people. Presumably he would have done the same had they Germany to the final or won it. Secondly he never blamed it on his teams exit anyway. Though the lopsided nature of the draw was a factor in my opinion in how the knock out stages panned out.
As for Wales and Iceland, as I pointed out well they would have qualified under the old format anyway and it devalues their achievements in my opinion to suggest otherwise.
Even if that hadn't been the case, I dont think the novelty value and spectacle that these newcomers brought in any way overcomes the much more considerable shortcomings on display of tampering with the 16 team format that had worked perfectly for 5 tournaments.
The 'sour grapes' belong to those criticizing Portugal winning it but have defended UEFAs cynical attempt to earn more revenue by placing quantity over quality.
Aidan Smith: 24 teams in the Euros is too many
There was a lot of talk beforehand that the expanded tournament had an effect on qualifying: 'smaller' teams believed they had more of a chance to qualify and so went for it rather than just practicing damage limitation. But then, once it got to the tournament itself it was possible to qualify with three draws, or one win, and so teams were happy to play more conservatively. So it seemingly had a positive impact on qualifying, less so on the tournament.
Having said that, even before the tournament people were saying it wasn't going to be a great one because of the actual personnel taking part. There's an impression that most of the national sides are not at their best, lacking cohesive units at the top of the game and deficits in both quality strikers and defenders (yes, there are good players, but arguably only a handful are operating at anything close to their best). This could also be another reason why 'smaller' teams are having more success - a well organised team is matching a collection of misfiring top players.
So, is it the tournament structure or the current quality of the teams? As ever, it's probably not one thing or the other but a combination of factors.
Watched the final in the pub with our Portuguese mate, suitably attired in Portuguese shirt , scarf and carrying a flag, who is on holiday with us. A lot of our friends who have been over to stay with us in Portugal came out to support him and Portugal. Regulars loved him and joined in the celebrations . Came back had to set up Portuguese tv on the firestick so he could watch the coverage of the celebrations all over Portugal. Hasn't been asleep and started on the wine about ten this morning , still watching the plane land and repeating himself in a mixture of broken English and Portuguese. Bless him.
Another victory for the anglo-Portuguese alliance.
Awful final and a very average tournament. Teams are so well organised these days and so fit that the blowouts of the past simply aren't going to happen. Fewer goals means less momentum for the bigger teams - seems like every game I watched this tournament was perched on a knife-edge, regardless of the opposition. Think France v Romania set the tone - few gave the Romanians a prayer yet France only nicked it right at the death. Have no-one to blame but themselves either for losing the final.
Fantastic show-reel of the goals of the tournament, which the winner in the final could easily have been added to. Yes, more tedium than you'd like and few classic matches, but a hatful of amazing goals.
A marvelous example of Post Brexit Britain
Guardian team of the tournament
Unlike the official TOTT atleast is doesn't have Ronaldo in it, but Joe Allen makes it! Ronaldo obviously got the role of arrogant tosser in the official team!
The BBC team!
Given that one of the key themes of the entire tournament has been teams rather than individuals - Wales, Iceland, post-Ronaldo Portugal - isn't team of the tournament a bit meaningless?
Pogba shouldn't be anywhere near that XI. Personally think Ronaldo shouldn't be either really, 3 goals but no real period of dominance from him during the tournament.
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