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Euro 2012: Stadiums of hate (panorama)

Discussion in 'Euro 2012 championship' started by tar1984, May 28, 2012.

  1. Athos

    Athos Well-Known Member

    The fact that people who aren't obviously neo-nazis invent these preposterous excuses for their countrymen is almost as worrying as what happens on the terraces.
     
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  2. paulhackett

    paulhackett voiced by strother martin

    USSR had a great range of races of its' own.. Ex Soviet countries had masses of students from Africa, India, Cuba etc. before the Berlin Wall fell, so there was plenty of exposure even in smaller towns in Russia, far away from Moscow. Exposure but little (cultural) interaction or mixing. Quite normal to be spat at on the street. Didn't stop them racially abusing way back when and hasn't stopped them now. 20-30 years behind? I think it takes far longer for widespread attitudes to change, a generation or two or three, whichever country that's in.
     
  3. Termite Man

    Termite Man zombie flesh eater

    I don't think that film gave a bad impression of all poles/ukranians just groups of fans (not even all fans)

    also am I the only person who thought Sol Campbell sounded like he was on an episode of Brass Eye?
     
  4. gabi

    gabi Banned Banned

    I think so, yes.

    His 'coffin' comment was OTT. But from what I gather, and far pre-dating this doco, you'd be a fool to walk into a polish or ukranian footy match and sitting in the stand bearing a black skin.
     
  5. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby The end is meh

    Not entirely footy related but we met a Ukranian girl yesterday (in her 20s, had served in the IDF). She started off asking if I was Jewish (because I look Jewish, apparently) then was I gay (because I look gay, apparently). She then moved on to how she hated the arabs (they have all the power and influence in London, apparently), took a swipe a the blacks, Chinese and Poles (the Poles were singled out because they gave it up to the Nazis, apparently).

    After an hour or so of this unusual discourse, when she said "I like London because it's so open" and that she was a communist originally, I said "and now you're a nazi"... she didn't like that. My mate asked her if she'd ever been wrong about something and she told us how an arabic shopkeeper tried to hit her :rolleyes:

    Anyway, to cut a long story short - we eventually left & fair play to her older and wiser mate who had visited Ukraine on many occasions. He said she was indeed racist but the climate in Ukraine does produce a lot of closed minds. Black people in Kiev tend not to go out at night for fear of being harassed and god forbid gay people should express their feelings in public.

    Fascinating and very very sad :(
     
  6. starfish

    starfish No dialogue. Just plot.

    I know, i know. I did look at him with mild disbelief on my face.
     
  7. tar1984

    tar1984 write a song, i'll sing along

  8. purves grundy

    purves grundy ambient clown remix

    Don't worry - it's just localism
     
  9. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

  10. tar1984

    tar1984 write a song, i'll sing along

    And Uefa have even denied it was racially motivated so there obviously isn't an issue
     
  11. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Uefa now officially going with that line. I think they've picked the wrong team to try that shameful shit with.
     
  12. articul8

    articul8 Dishonest sociopath

    Uefa: No bears have been defecating near any trees
     
  13. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

  14. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18363736

    Still don't appear to be doing owt about it.

    but then it looks like no official complaint is likely.

     
  15. Yeah. Talk about 'the dog ate my homework' book of bollocks excuses. That in itself is depressing.
     
  16. Ted Striker

    Ted Striker Foot's on the other hand

    Just for removal of all doubt, uber-twat-in-training Platini weighed in to confirm that any racial chanting victim will be yellow carded if they leave the pitch.

    There is no handclap slow enough.
     
  17. articul8

    articul8 Dishonest sociopath

    Van Bommell (?) was absolutely spot on - when Neil Lennon got a load of sectarian abuse off bigoted cunts at Windsor Park, his teammates should have marched off and refused to play.

    Let's see Platini ban the whole team
     
  18. deadringer

    deadringer meat pie sausage roll

    Both teams should have a pre game agreement to walk off if either team gets any abuse. It's the only way the pricks at UEFA and FIFA will take any notice.
     
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  19. CyberRose

    CyberRose أرفع الشفرات

    Yes but was she fit?
     
  20. Teepee

    Teepee like livewire voodoo

  21. CyberRose

    CyberRose أرفع الشفرات

    To be fair, the writer did end the article by saying they "can probably start getting used to that kind of following" which is probably not far from the truth!
     
  22. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby The end is meh

    On the surface, sure. But very ugly inside.
     
  23. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    All a load of hype then in the end ;)
     

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