ethical toiletries/cleaning products

[stavros]

You could try recycled toilet paper. I buy Nouvelle stuff and it roughly the same price as bog-standard stuff (pun intended ). I suggested to my Mum that she use it but she refused on the gorund that it was too rough. i can't tell any difference whatsoever but whether that's different for a woman I don't know.

 

[rollinder]

Oxfam has a good recycled toilet paper (at least my local one does) tearfund/tearcraft I think? can't tell any difference, maybe need to use a bit more but not to have really noticed

 

[geminisnake]

I suggested to my Mum that she use it but she refused on the ground that it was too rough. i can't tell any difference whatsoever but whether that's different for a woman I don't know.

Havwe you used your recycled stuff when you have a cold and have to blow/wipe your nose loads? You might notice a difference then.

I definetly notice the difference between cheap or coloured loo roll after a couple of days. It can get painful

 

[subversplat]

Just to throw a cat among the ethical pigeons - where does the Tesco Naturally range stand regarding animal testing?


Also for laundry I tried soap nuts - they're ok on coloureds but leave little rust marks on whites

How about making your own soap for washing ets - it's a piece of piss

Tesco doesn't comission animal tests for any of their own brand products. Whether their suppliers do or not nobody knows (ie. they haven't ratified a proper Fixed Cut Off Date)

 

[Vintage Paw]

What Madzone said, then. There are very few manufactured cleaning products which aren't tested on animals, or are otherwise 'ethical'.

For example, many people swear by Ecover, which on the surface seem to be 'green', but their products are tested on aquatic life, and also using blood from farmed rabbits. The company which owns them also owns Group 4, who operate security services in some dodgy places, such as Guantanamo.

The Ecover products I have all have the vegan symbol on them - what's the deal with that then?

 

[scumbalina]

Supermarkets own is probably the way to go, Co-op are pretty good and as others have said probably tesco - I think both do an eco range too. I don't think Morrisons test on animals either. Toiletries-wise, places like Superdrug, Boots etc own brand, or if you feel flush a bit of lush

 

[moose]

The Ecover products I have all have the vegan symbol on them - what's the deal with that then?

Old stock.

 

[ShiftyBagLady]

well i think the testing described in that link is acceptable but shouldnt the vegan society be a bit stricter? especially when they are giving the product a trusted stamp, and seen as ecover does use some animal testing it surely goes against what the trusted stamp is supposed to represent?
it does make any disclaimer about it on the packaging so people are being mislead in believeing its entirely vegan arent they?

 

[butterfly child]

well i think the testing described in that link is acceptable but shouldnt the vegan society be a bit stricter? especially when they are giving the product a trusted stamp, and seen as ecover does use some animal testing it surely goes against what the trusted stamp is supposed to represent?
it does make any disclaimer about it on the packaging so people are being mislead in believeing its entirely vegan arent they?

I was of the belief it was a recent discovery about Ecover, and that is why the Vegan Society isn't allowing them to use their stamp anymore.

 

[butterfly child]

Just to throw a cat among the ethical pigeons - where does the Tesco Naturally range stand regarding animal testing?


Also for laundry I tried soap nuts - they're ok on coloureds but leave little rust marks on whites

How about making your own soap for washing ets - it's a piece of piss

Try soap nut liquid, that won't leave any marks. I expect the "rust" marks are either marks from the shell of the nuts, or maybe something to do with your washing machine?

(I'm sure there was a thread about washing machines and marks on white clothes?)

One could probably make their own soap nut liquid from soap nuts, but I just buy the pre-made soap nut liquid.

Aveda, oh yes.. will go back to Aveda shampoo and conditioner. My mum made a massive fuss about them being a tenner each, but I only had to use a pea sized dollop every time I washed. Shampoo lasts me forever.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Thanks for the ecover link. To be brutally honest, that info isn't going to stop me using it.

As for Aveda - yum I've got a big bottle of their Shampure that I've had for maybe two years that's still going strong. Plus, it doesn't have harsh soaps in it. An extra bonus for a wiry curly-head like me. I also use it as body wash in the shower. Leaves me silky soft (steady boys ).

Toothpaste is my biggest sticking point. I switched to a brand I can't remember the name of - got it from H&B. It comes in mint or fennel, and with or without fluoride. I got the one with fluoride, because I have really crap teeth, and if my mum's are anything to go by they'll start falling out in a few years time. Anyway, I noticed a huge difference while using it. My gums bled more, and I was getting vague toothaches all the time. I switched back to Mr VPs Colgate (he said the same when he was using it so switched back before me) and everything is right as rain again. I feel shit about that. I suppose my morals are pretty sketchy where my teeth are concerned.

 

[Pingu]

just in case anyone missed it earlier on in the thread

http://www.uncaged.co.uk/crueltyfree.htm

 

[butterfly child]

Toothpaste is my biggest sticking point. I switched to a brand I can't remember the name of - got it from H&B. It comes in mint or fennel, and with or without fluoride. I got the one with fluoride, because I have really crap teeth, and if my mum's are anything to go by they'll start falling out in a few years time. Anyway, I noticed a huge difference while using it. My gums bled more, and I was getting vague toothaches all the time. I switched back to Mr VPs Colgate (he said the same when he was using it so switched back before me) and everything is right as rain again. I feel shit about that. I suppose my morals are pretty sketchy where my teeth are concerned.

Was it Toms? I've been using it for a little while, I'm using the fennel one at the moment, no idea if it has fluoride in it or not. Good ol' me

Lush do a a couple of toothpastes, they gave me a sample for one of them, I have yet to use it.

*makes mental note to use it later*

 

[Vintage Paw]

just in case anyone missed it earlier on in the thread

http://www.uncaged.co.uk/crueltyfree.htm

That's fabulous

I can heartily recommend Liz Earles stuff. A couple of things have beeswax in them, but the rest are great. Her suncream is wonderful. Non-chemical, works a charm. I have a tube that must be a few years old now and it still works well, even though I know suncreams are supposed to weaken over time. I wear it all through summer. You have to rub it in well because it's got zinc in it and you go white but that's not a problem.

I used to use her cleanse and polish, but got through it too quickly. I switched all my face care to Lush, just because it's easier and slightly cheaper.

Wow, I was surprised to see some of the shops and supermarkets on the good list from your link Pingu. I wish they'd take it further than just toiletries though. All our local Coops have been closed down around here, otherwise I'd get it all from there.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Was it Toms? I've been using it for a little while, I'm using the fennel one at the moment, no idea if it has fluoride in it or not. Good ol' me

Lush do a a couple of toothpastes, they gave me a sample for one of them, I have yet to use it.

*makes mental note to use it later*

No, it wasn't Tom's. I don't think they do a fluoride one. They have pretty boring packaging, the fennel one I had was just a red and white box.

Those Lush toothpastes look like an absolute rip-off. Have you seen the size of the tubes? Minuscule.

 

[Pingu]

and this is the booklet thing I mentioned earlier on

http://www.naturewatch.org/shoppingguide/index.asp