Escorting- anyone tried it?

[Louloubelle]

Interesting post Mikey77

I think it's very important that you don't put money into the hands of vile pimps.

AFAIK almost all of the Russian and Eastern European women are controlled by violent pimps. There are also some Thai women in London, also controlled by pimps. The women work for escort agencies and massage parlours. Their lives are miserable.

Women with their own website, including a few Russian and Eastern European women, are not controlled by pimps.

I heard of one agency that is so exclusive that they don't advertise, I can't remember the name, something to do with Sweden IMMIC, with just a few girls, all with jobs as professional fashion models, and these women are not controlled or coerced. I think the prices start at £1,000. The women who work there go to a private specialist for healthcare and don't visit the NHS project, although I heard about this (possibly mythical) agency via the NHS staff.

 

[Mikey77]

Women with their own website, including a few Russian and Eastern European women, are not controlled by pimps.

Some of them are. There are some crudely put together sites to make it look like they are working independently when in fact they are with agencies, and working for pimps.

 

[User 301X/5.1]

Dunno, but I'm single atm, and I could kind of see it as getting paid for a one night stand with someone you didn't really want to call you...which has happened to the best of us.

And it's bloody good money.

Let me know if you fancy a discounted trial night.

 

[Meltingpot]

"specialising" has less health risks and is more lucrative than just having intercourse for money it's true.

However I think you should reflect on the fact that it's completely different to give an enema and bed bath to a compliant patient than to someone who's paying you and who will introduce all kinds of other demands into the equation.

Women who do this kind of work find it to be very emotionally polluting and stressful. There is no way to avoid this AFAIK

if you specialise, youth is not so much of an issue, however it sounds as though however much money you earn you will find a way of spending it pronto

Working in the sex industry means that men will sponge off you more, not less.

I saw your thread in the DF and it seems to me that you're at quite a vulnerable time in your life where you could quite easily get into some serious problems with drugs if you're not careful. Working in the sex industry is likely to facilitate and increase your drug use, not help you sort yourself out.

Please do think about this seriously. Personally I think you would do well to get some help with your drug use and to have some counselling about your relationships with men, which seem to be problematic and bordering on abusive.

Getting involved in the sex industry is likely to make things worse for you, not better. IMO

I'd agree with this very balanced post except for one thing; I once read about a nurse who gave "hand jobs" to often elderly and/or disabled clients, for which she claimed she received double the pay and ten times the thanks that she got when nursing.

She's probably an exception though, most sex workers seem to end up being abused by the men they're servicing. For that reason my advice is "don't do it".

I like the phrase "emotionally polluting" too.

 

[UID]

I'd have thought it would be more you abusing the men at those prices!

 

[Louloubelle]

Some of them are. There are some crudely put together sites to make it look like they are working independently when in fact they are with agencies, and working for pimps.

Wouldn't surprise me TBH

 

[Louloubelle]

I'd agree with this very balanced post except for one thing; I once read about a nurse who gave "hand jobs" to often elderly and/or disabled clients, for which she claimed she received double the pay and ten times the thanks that she got when nursing.

She's probably an exception though, most sex workers seem to end up being abused by the men they're servicing. For that reason my advice is "don't do it".

I like the phrase "emotionally polluting" too.

It's complex though isn't it?

My sisters are both nurses and they get paid a pittance for all the work they do, however they both find the work very rewarding and wouldn't change careers for anything. Being a sex worker might possibly be rewarding in some ways but I think that the downsides are likely to outweigh any of the benefits.

That stuff about emotionally polluting, it's very important.

IMMIC some posters here had worked on telephone sex lines but had to stop because they found it made them feel so bad.

It's not just about the physical contact, it's about a person paying who feels entitled to demand very intimate things. It's about both the client and the sex worker maintaining a fantasy that they are in control, but both being in denial about the power of the other in the transaction. or something

Anyway, on the DF the OP has talked of struggling to stop her crack and heroin use from escalating from being an occasional recreation thing into a fully fledged habit.

At this very same time she's considering selling sex.

You don't have to be Einstein to see how badly this could turn out.

 

[Xanadu]

Anyway, on the DF the OP has talked of struggling to stop her crack and heroin use from escalating from being an occasional recreation thing into a fully fledged habit.

At this very same time she's considering selling sex.

using severely addictive drugs + large source of income = very bad news

Yes, there's the possibility that you could come out of it unscathed, but is it really worth the (potentially very high) risk?

On top of that, with intravenous drug use, there's more chance of getting Hepetitus and HIV, which you could potentially pass onto someone (even using condoms & dams, there is going to be a risk)

 

[Louloubelle]

I just worried that I was sounding a bit harsh towards stuff_it

she is trying hard sort herself out re drugs,m which is admirable, and she has obviously given this matter considerable thought, I just have a horrible feeling about it based on how I've seen other people's lives disintegrate and all I want to do is to say DON'T DO IT

that's it really

 

[secretsquirrel]

how about being a champagne waitress in one of those bars in Mayfair..you sit looking pretty on a bar stool and a fat business man comes over then you get him to buy champers, pour yours in the plant pot because you cant be too drunk(although that part would clearly be a problem for me...!), ...and you get £50 for every bottle they drink ... some girls would go off with these men but you don't have to.

i didnt do this but a friend did, she would make about £400 every weekend.

Anyway good luck...

Friend did that whilst at uni and - guess what - pretty much ALL of the girls at the club went off with the men. Pretty much expected AFAIK.

She did it for a v.short time to help out over a v.bad financial period. It still keeps her awake at night worrying that she'll meet an ex-client in a work situation or that her boyfriend will find out.

Seeing the effect it had on her - even though it was for such a short period of her life - and bearing in mind she had no particular 'issues' to deal with. Well, I think it's the last thing you should do to earn some extra money that actually you can live without...

 

[London_Calling]

About 3 years ago I had a knocking shop right next door but a floor below. Didn’t get to know the girls but I did have several natters with the older woman in charge, I suppose she was going a bit of ‘hearts and minds’ so they didn’t get grassed up – they did in the end.

All the girls there were Eastern European and students of various descriptions. Apparently most worked just one shift a week, either lunchtimes or after normal office hours, no after the pubs shut stuff at all. Very part time, very keen-ish amateur.

Far from fulltime and just a way to pay the rent, I suppose.

I was surprised when she said almost half the phone calls in the daytime were from women looking to work.

 

[stuff_it]

I just worried that I was sounding a bit harsh towards stuff_it

she is trying hard sort herself out re drugs,m which is admirable, and she has obviously given this matter considerable thought, I just have a horrible feeling about it based on how I've seen other people's lives disintegrate and all I want to do is to say DON'T DO IT

that's it really

I've got ENOUGH money to keep a drug habit anyway, so I can't see it making much difference. I have pretty much got myself clean now, I was thinking of doing a bit to boost my income and replace all the money I'd have saved if I had't spanked it all on drugs, so I can spank it all on holidays, clothes, and maybe a part time degree.

I don't live in London, though I'd certaily consider travelling that for to go and do 'ahem' speciaist services if the money was better.

I've always wondered about doing something like escorting, but I've previously always been in a relatioship or whatever stopping me trying it out, and I thought I wont get that many more years to asuage my curiousity.

Is all very well sayig blokes would try and sponge off me more, but I'd also be much more suspicious of their motives, so I'd probably got less dosh actually sponged off me. At the moent they seem to think I'm middle class and secretly rich (FALSE), but it doesn't stop them trying to rinse me blind. My ex hubby used to pinch my little cash and ket stashes that I left hidden round the house, and then maybe if i were lucky he would share a little of the money/ket/etc that he had so studiously 'saved from the weekend' (actually having pinched it from me. A little being teeny teeny line or maybe a half in the pub if i'm lucky)

This was the same husband who took me aside two days after the wedding to tell me he didn't really like kising, so could we not do it any more please.

Then he refused to go to work, but woudln't sign off sick properly. He got stat sick pay at his job, and used to go i one day a week (Meaning he was never entitled to wages or sick pay ever).

The last most recent one obviously got me onto the wrong kind of drugs..... (having managed to be a safe recreational user for 14 years before that)

If I thuoght they were only after my dough and didn't really like me or who I was then I'd be right for a change. In fact, prbably don't need escorting to tell me that, I need it wrote on the ceiling above the bed in 6ft letters so I see it every morning when I get up!

In Neon flashing 6ft letters.

Now how am I going to pay for that, neon's expensive....

 

[Gromit]

You had your cooling off period yet?

Wondering if you are serious or not really going to go through with it. Yanking chains.

Or worse yet another Belle De Jour in the making.

 

[stuff_it]

You had your cooling off period yet?

Wondering if you are serious or not really going to go through with it. Yanking chains.

Or worse yet another Belle De Jour in the making.

Just about to order a wig off ebay....

 

[Pip]

Forgive my naivety, but what exactly do specialist services offer? BDSM and kinky stuff with no obligation to have sex with your client? Are there specific agencies for that or do most people work independently through websites and stuff? For the record I'm certain that sex work would completely screw me up (so to speak) so I'm not asking career advice, just curious.
Louloubelle, you are informative and sensible as ever.

 

[stuff_it]

Anyway, on the DF the OP has talked of struggling to stop her crack and heroin use from escalating from being an occasional recreation thing into a fully fledged habit.

???


Thats not what I've been posting in DF at all. I've just sorted out the heroin thing before it got too bad (you can tell by the way by day 3 I was back in work full time). I posted on another thread about how only one pipe of crack and my asthma nearly kills me!

My main habit problem is my MONEY habit. I have always managed to spend what I've earned, though I've never earned very much to start with.

I have, however, through the course of my life, managed to knock about every addicitive habit on the head appart from smoking baccy (Which I DID manage to give up twice, one for 3 motnhs and once for 6 months)

As I said just before, I don't think the drugs thing is much of an issue, as I earn enough atm to suport a failry sizeable habit should I wish to, so on your arguement I shoudl stop work altogether and go on benefits. (Apparently I should anyway- co no oe shoudl give money to a juckie or ex junkie in case they spend it on drugs )

As I said before I've always been a bit curious about it. (And I kow for a fact I'd be ok with it morrally* as long as I wasn't in a relationship). Also it's getting a bit late in life for me to somehow carve out some other well paid work without some extra funding now- I wasn't plannig ot give up the day job and 'service' 40 blokes a week, just maybe 1-2, which i could manage for free oging out eveyr weekend as a single lady; thus boosting my income and allowig me to concentrate on other things like some part time education and maybe my 1st holidAY IN 7 YEARS.**



*long story


**the last one i had booked was just before I left London I was due to go on honeymoon, just split with twatface and couldn't face staying in a holiday chalet with him no matter how close to the med. Been doing agency office work for years, as you kno all your holiday pay ends up going on 'gaps'



Specialist stuff: I think you can advertise on the net or find an existing 'dungeon' to work at- as for services- aything you can think of SOMEONE will pay good money; I did a good part of a nursing diploma so I was thinking in that kind of direction eventually- same stuff as nurses do but for £££'s

 

[Xanadu]

Found a website dealing with safety:

http://www.saafe.info/

Looks like some good advice there.

 

[stuff_it]

Ta.

I've already seen that one....looks like maily common sense- stuff you would do going on a date with a stranger whether paid or upaid....letting pepole know where you are, playing safely, etc.

 

[lights.out.london]

I'm kinda/not kinda surprised at the thread.

I've never paid for sex or "company". Can't imagine doing so. I think it might be a turn-on to be paid by a woman and commoditised for a couple of hours; either as a date or as a lover/whore. But that's coming from a male [mostly] heterosexual PoV.

I don't see it as a viable career choice, though.

 

[simpson_eh]

Don't escorts employ some sort of body guard. i know it might not be essential but potential violent clients, threats from pimps, sounds pretty scary, can't imagine how many people have been scarred by a bit of money making which turned into a rape or something terrible.

 

[Louloubelle]

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Thats not what I've been posting in DF at all. I've just sorted out the heroin thing before it got too bad (you can tell by the way by day 3 I was back in work full time). I posted on another thread about how only one pipe of crack and my asthma nearly kills me!

It's like this as far as I see it

You say you've "sorted out the heroin thing before it got too bad", but what that means is that you know you were developing a habit. You stopped. Good for you. Really.

However, just because you managed to stop at the point where the withdrawals weren't too terrible doesn't mean that you're not in a very vulnerable place now.

I've known a lot of women who'd never taken heroin or coke before but who got into it once they started to work in the sex industry. The reason being that emotional pollution thing I mentioned earlier. Not being able to sleep because you have an image in your mind or a feeling in your body that is a flashback to something unpleasant that happened last night that you can only make go away if you take drugs.

Women in the sex industry are very vulnerable to getting involved in drugs to the point of developing a habit. It doesn't happen to all of them but for those who struggle to cope with the emotional degradation then drugs are a way out and the money is there to pay for them. When heroin and crack are involved then things tend to spiral downwards very quickly.

Reputable escort agencies (any not run by pimps) will want nothing to do with women on drugs and any woman discovered to be taking them is out on their ear. But hey, the streets are always an option and the streets is where the addicted women end up.

Apologies if this sounds negative, it's just that I've seen some women's lives change very rapidly due to a combination of drugs and the sex industry and your posts ring a lot of alarm bells.

As for 'specialising', well it takes time to get yourself established and you would need to get involved in message boards relevant to the kind of specialism you're interested in. The Internet has changed everything since I worked in the NHS and has provided working women with a chance to take control of their work so they don't have to work through agencies or pimps, however pimps can and do threaten women and robbers target working women, it's not an easy option.

For example, you could become a mummy / nurse / nanny to adult babies. It might sound OK but do you really want to spend your time cleaning shit from the arses of big, smelly old men while they ask you if they've been a naughty boy and cry like a baby?

Read this for an idea of what these adult babies are like

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2005-06-09/news/baby-man/

I don't really know what to suggest, whatever you do I wish you well in it but I have a really bad feeling about it and I hope you reconsider.

 

[Stanley Edwards]

Do you have to complete a spelling and grammar test to be an escort?

There must be some sort of differentiation between escort and hooker surely. I mean, an escort agency wouldn't just accept anyone without checking out their qualifications would they?

Educated hookers should have to show certificates and stuff. No

 

[Sweaty Betty]

There is no differnce.....just escorts like to pretend thay aint hookers ...thats all...

 

[Stanley Edwards]

There is no differnce.....just escorts like to pretend thay aint hookers ...thats all...

I think you're wrong. I think it's a spelling thing.

If I was ever desperate enough to pay for such services I'm sure I would get a full refund if my servicer couldn't spell correctly when I'd paid for a higher class service.

I can spot dumb fucks no matter how expensive their frock

 

[Sweaty Betty]

I think you're wrong. I think it's a spelling thing.

If I was ever desperate enough to pay for such services I'm sure I would get a full refund if my servicer couldn't spell correctly when I'd paid for a higher class service.

I can spot dumb fucks no matter how expensive their frock

escorting is a myth

 

[Gromit]

A quality vrs quanity thing?

Escort - spend the whole night with one guy at high price and no mingers
Hooker - knock as many out as you can in the same time frame, Lack of 10/10 looks not a set back..

 

[Sweaty Betty]

A quality vrs quanity thing?

Escort - spend the whole night with one guy at high price and no mingers
Hooker - knock as many out as you can in the same time frame, Lack of 10/10 looks not a set back..

if an escort tells you she doesnt pull tricks, she is defo a hooker by default

 

[Stanley Edwards]

escorting is a myth

Gentleman that I am, I still believe in people who put their trust in me to escort a young wench around town.

'Will you take care of our daughter?' they say.

'Of course I will, but I'll need a few hundred to get her into the right circles with the good looking rich folk' say I.

It's a good business once you know where you're at!

 

[Gromit]

Gentleman that I am, I still believe in people who put their trust in me to escort a young wench around town.

'Will you take care of our daughter?' they say.

'Of course I will, but I'll need a few hundred to get her into the right circles with the good looking rich folk' say I.

It's a good business once you know where you're at!

Come on now Stan, the only rich circles you know are Rich Tea biscuits.

 

[Stanley Edwards]

Come on now Stan, the only rich circles you know are Rich Tea biscuits.

And the Bourbon's. I'm well in with the Bourbon's. I happen to know of a very 'ready' Bourbon-Smythe Esq who's worth a fucking fortune

Send your daughters my way