English Democrats Party to stand in Welsh Assembly elections

[Idaho]

Craig can be cross about whatever he chooses. If I saw the BNP holding a demo, for instance, I'd be miffed - wouldn't you? Even if I recognised their right to do so.

The BNP encourage violence and hatred. The UKIP are a bunch of deluded old farts who want to change the apparatus of government. They aren't hurting anyone.

If Craig thinks support for a democratic Welsh Assembly is so fragile that it needs to be so aggressively defended, then perhaps he should rethink the very notion of it being democratic.

 

[Brockway]

If Craig thinks support for a democratic Welsh Assembly is so fragile that it needs to be so aggressively defended, then perhaps he should rethink the very notion of it being democratic.

I think you're putting thoughts into Craig's head there. He hasn't expressed any opinion about the supposed fragility of the Welsh Assembly. You're making an assumption - that's unfair on Craig.

 

[Idaho]

((((Craig))))

He hasn't directly. But he got pretty damn cross at the sight of a UKIP billboard. Why worry? UKIP have as much chance of success in Wales as I do.

 

[Brockway]

Maybe it was blocking his view of Cardiff Bay. I'd be annoyed too if I couldn't see the Billy Banks in their full glory.

 

[lewislewis]

Maybe it was blocking his view of Cardiff Bay. I'd be annoyed too if I couldn't see the Billy Banks in their full glory.

Soon to be knocked down and replaced with a 'Penarth Heights' development

 

[llantwit]

Do you not believe in democracy craig? Would you remove their right to pay for this billboard?

What's someone's right to advertise on a huge billboard got to do with democracy. Democracy's about equal participation, not unequal participation based on the ability to stump up a bunch of cash for an advertising hoarding.
And anyway, Craig didn't say anything about their 'right' to air their views - he merely expressed an opposing view, so don't get yer knickers in a twist.
Go Craig!

 

[ddraig]

oi u buggers!
no real names inint!

 

[zog]

Stop yer moanin Craig

 

[ddraig]

Stop yer moanin Craig

you as well

wots on dis weekend then groover?
<cough>portia alledges multi</cough> hmmm

 

[munkeeunit]

The English are having a hard enough time convincing the English to give a toss about being English, so why are they bothering Newport?

Still, they might just focus all their energies on getting Newport 'back', only to find that while their attention is turned, Cornwall goes independent, Bristol declares itself a Celtic City, and the rest of England turns mysteriously French.

Newport will be all they have left, before shortly being caste into the Bristol Channel (which will now be the National Territorial waters of Bristol, leading them all to be promptly arrested, snuffing out the remnants of England once and for all).

 

[FaradayCaged]

being newport born and raised, and one very patriotic welsh guy, i would jump off the nearest bypass if newport became part of england......

 

[Karac]

The English are having a hard enough time convincing the English to give a toss about being English, so why are they bothering Newport?

Good point-anyone who thinks Newport is in England needs their head felt

 

[Karen Eliot]

Craig goes very quiet all of a sudden.

 

[zog]

you as well

wots on dis weekend then groover?
<cough>portia alledges multi</cough> hmmm

With child at mo. if I'm free I'm thinking of going over brizzle for fruity antics. someone from nrk records headlining.

Will plant the welsh flag when I'm over the border. part from that aint been paying much attention.

Deffo childless from saturday on so a multi event sounds up my street.

 

[ddraig]

Craig goes very quiet all of a sudden.

sorry but like what are you on about please?

 

[ddraig]

With child at mo. if I'm free I'm thinking of going over brizzle for fruity antics. someone from nrk records headlining.

Will plant the welsh flag when I'm over the border. part from that aint been paying much attention.

Deffo childless from saturday on so a multi event sounds up my street.

ok, have a good one mate

 

[Karen Eliot]

I was talking about your sullen defiance of the UKIP craig. What did you actually do after getting so spectacularly wound up?

 

[ddraig]

I was talking about your sullen defiance of the UKIP craig. What did you actually do after getting so spectacularly wound up?

just frothed at the mouth a bit and carried on eating my ciabatta pannini with sunblush tomatoes in what the fudge else should i do?

 

[ddraig]

anyway, i ain't craig ok fair dinkum!!11!!11!1!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Karen Eliot]

What *should* you do craig?

 

[llantwit]

What *should* you do craig?

You are one weird fish Eliot Karen.
Stop victimising Craig.

 

[biff curtains]

What is the ED position on trade unions and workers rights?

 

[llantwit]

What is the ED position on trade unions and workers rights?

I guess that would depend whether they were English trade unions or English workers, wouldn't it?

 

[pembrokestephen]

You welshies really get your knickers in a twist don't you? If the man wants to stand for election then so be it. If you don't agree with his version of history, debate it. If you want to know his other policies, ask him.

Easy, tiger. I don't think he's getting any harder a ride than any other apparently (though somewhat coyly) anti-EU nationalist stylee politico would be getting on here.

And, unless you have some grasp of Welsh cultural issues (I've been here 2 years, and I might claim only to have the slightest hint of them), you're really in no position to cast aspersions on the way Welsh people choose to express their national pride. Sod knows they waited long enough for it, and the days of kids being beaten in school for the crime of speaking Welsh are still in living memory for some of them.

 

[ska invita]

Our goal is a federal UK with full national parliaments. Once achieved anything after is a matter for England.

To be honest, I couldnt care less what else the EDP stands for - i support this vision of the UK. The EDP will never win elections out right, but may succeed in making this a reality. Once it happens they will fade into obscurity...

Small, localised government is a step in the right direction - Proudhon would be proud.

Who knows in reality what kind of a future it would really bring, but one thing is for certain, Westminster is hugely threatened by it. Good.

SNP are looking possible winners in May - this issue isnt going away.

EDIT: It's possible to not be a nationalist and support this federal vision - the EDP are nationalists and show signs of right-wing thinking on other issues - that doesn't mean that a federal system is of itself nationalist - it is however certainly anti-state.

EDIT 2: That whole bit about Monmouthshire is clearly nationalist shit stirring by the EDP though - although its fair enough to have a referendum.

 

[durruti02]

mr gash did not say that the EDP have a e-petition for a referendum on the govt website

..when i looked it had 174 supportters so far .. all or none who may have been from (historic county) of monmouth! ... so can't see demand .. yet ..

true though that majority of county did not support assembly either time .. but was that residual labour anti nat supportters? and welsh speaking almost non existent for many years .. much less than croesowallt!

 

[brianx]

Yeah you can keep Newport - it's a dump. Isn't it the post pub violence capital of the UK?

Some bits of Monmouthshire are quite pretty though.

Well looking out of my window this morning our dirty old town's looking particularly lovely.
Next time you're in Newport post pub why don't you let people know what you think of the place and you'll find out.

 

[Idaho]

Well looking out of my window this morning our dirty old town's looking particularly lovely.
Next time you're in Newport post pub why don't you let people know what you think of the place and you'll find out.

The crapness of Newport, and the propensity for general violence, let alone any I would be stupid enough to draw on myself, make my ever visiting the place again highly unlikely.

I'm not picking on Newport in particular. There are plenty of other shit places on this island, just that Newport ranks highly amongst them.

 

[brianx]

If we were to leave Wales it probably wouldn't be into the arms of Mother England although it's flattering to be courted like. Now if the Trinidad or St Lucia Democrats were to stand in Gwent.
If Gwent did decide to "rejoin" England wouldn't the English people be given a vote to decide if they want us? If a drunken, violent old hobo wants to move into your house you do have the right to tell him to bugger off.

 

[Dic Penderyn]

If the Trinidad or St Lucia Democrats were to stand in Gwent, I'd be really tempted to vote for them, they'd have to have strong policy's on the weather though!!!