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The video I've seen has the guy shouting at the lifeboat crew and then a short time later a small group of men throwing fish into the sea as the boat attempts to launch. According to the on-screen captioning, this is to attract seagulls so that the boat has to stop. I can't confirm that seagulls stop lifeboats, but I also can't think of a sane reason to throw fish in front of one. There wasn't a second boat in the footage, but maybe it was out of shot.
 
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The video I've seen has the guy shouting at the lifeboat crew and then a short time later a small group of men throwing fishing into the sea at the boat attempts to launch. According to the on-screen captioning, this is to attract seagulls so that the boat has to stop. I can't confirm that seagulls stop lifeboats, but I also can't think of a sane reason to throw fish in front of one. There wasn't a second boat in the footage, but maybe it was out of shot.

The lifeboat attempted to launch on an unusual side of the harbour. There was a fishing boat in the way and they shouted at the fisherman to move which created a verbal altercation. The fish being thrown into the water was the fisherman dumping his by-catch. Or do you really think it's more likely he was trying to create an impenetrable seagull screen?

Here is a more reasonable account of what happened:

 
The video I've seen has the guy shouting at the lifeboat crew and then a short time later a small group of men throwing fish into the sea as the boat attempts to launch. According to the on-screen captioning, this is to attract seagulls so that the boat has to stop. I can't confirm that seagulls stop lifeboats, but I also can't think of a sane reason to throw fish in front of one. There wasn't a second boat in the footage, but maybe it was out of shot.

I can hear one person shouting from a distance, and one (same one?) throwing fish into the sea, not a group of men, those it yellow wellies are all RNLI people.

And, to suggest a few seagulls would stop the launch is frankly beyond madness. :D

 
The fish being thrown into the water was the fisherman dumping his by-catch. Or do you really think it's more likely he was trying to create an impenetrable seagull screen?
I think he could easily have dumped fish somewhere other than in front of a lifeboat trying to launch. And he wasn't on his own. There were three or four others with him.
 
I think you're being silly.
Alright, having not previously forensically examined the video, I'll admit to the possibility that I may have been misled by the captioning.

All the same, what we're left with is eyewitness accounts and a denial by someone representing the fishermen. I can't see what basis there is to assume one side has it right and the other not.
 
Alright, having not previously forensically examined the video, I'll admit to the possibility that I may have been misled by the captioning.

All the same, what we're left with is eyewitness accounts and a denial by someone representing the fishermen. I can't see what basis there is to assume one side has it right and the other not.

The application of critical thinking helps.

Nothing in the videos (apart from the highly dubious captioning) supports the blockading assertion.

How would the people filming and captioning the video (and the supposed blockaders) know that the boat is answering a refugee call-out? I don't believe the lifeboat station broadcasts the nature of the shout to everyone on the beach.

The fishermen's account seems highly credible and supported by the videos.

There has been nothing from the RNLI or the police that confirms any sinister actions.

The bloke supposedly chumming-up the water to create the exploding-seagull barrier, does so AFTER the boat is in the water.

Seagulls don't stop lifeboats.
 
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We also have the video backing-up the representative of the fishermen, and showing that the eyewitness account is bollocks, Rodney.
The video doesn't back anything up, Del, except that someone was shouting at the RNLI. According to the eyewitnesses, this was someone on the beach, possibly a fisherman. One of them took a photo of the guy. According to the fishermen's rep, this was a lorry driver who just happened to be passing while the fishermen and the lifeboat crew were having an argument, which suggests it was not anyone on the beach (or how would you know it was a lorry driver). So somebody must be making something up.
 
The video doesn't back anything up, Del, except that someone was shouting at the RNLI. According to the eyewitnesses, this was someone on the beach, possibly a fisherman. One of them took a photo of the guy. According to the fishermen's rep, this was a lorry driver who just happened to be passing while the fishermen and the lifeboat crew were having an argument, which suggests it was not anyone on the beach (or how would you know it was a lorry driver). So somebody must be making something up.

You plonker!
 
The video doesn't back anything up, Del, except that someone was shouting at the RNLI. According to the eyewitnesses, this was someone on the beach, possibly a fisherman. One of them took a photo of the guy. According to the fishermen's rep, this was a lorry driver who just happened to be passing while the fishermen and the lifeboat crew were having an argument, which suggests it was not anyone on the beach (or how would you know it was a lorry driver). So somebody must be making something up.

The so-called eye witness claims there was a group blocking the RNLI lifeboat, the video clearly shows that wasn't the case.

And, no one claimed the 'lorry driver who just happened to be passing', you do realise lorries pick-up the fishermen's catches to take to market(s), and the fish don't swim there themselves, Rodney?
 
The so-called eye witness claims there was a group blocking the RNLI lifeboat, the video clearly shows that wasn't the case.

And, no one claimed the 'lorry driver who just happened to be passing', you do realise lorries pick-up the fishermen's catches to take to market(s), and the fish don't swim there themselves, Rodney?

There is NOBODY on the beach apart from the fisherman and the lifeboat people. Whoever's captioning the vid says there was a group blocking the boat and then fails to film the single most important part of his story. Those people.

Also, if some bloke started gobbing-off racist shit at a lifeboat launch whilst I was filming, I'd put my camera on him. Doesn't that suggest that the most likely culprit is the geezer who enters the video above (post #187) from the left, right at the beginning? That would mean he wasn't on the beach at all.
 
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Normally such gobshites as the guy in the video are completely forgotten within about 10 mins this one seems to have made a much greater impression than he deserved.
 
I have this wild fantasy that the boat owning, seafaring people of the south of England band together, invoke the 'Spirit of Dunkirk', and set sail for the French coast on a rescue mission to pick up the asylum seekers before bringing them to safety in our fair land...
 
I have this wild fantasy that the boat owning, seafaring people of the south of England band together, invoke the 'Spirit of Dunkirk', and set sail for the French coast on a rescue mission to pick up the asylum seekers before bringing them to safety in our fair land...
Not sure , but think you end up with boat being confiscated
 
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