England WC 2018 qualifiers

Discussion in 'football' started by Lord Camomile, Oct 8, 2016.

  1. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    Seeing as you've gone to the effort of compiling this, please can you tell me how many group games have England played and how many knockout games in this period so that we can see the win percentages.

    Many thanks :)

    ETA Split between Euros and WC would be even better given England's poor Euro record :)
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2017
  2. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    The overall stats are here:

    England national football team - Wikipedia

    WC: p62, w26, d20, l16
    EC: p32, w10, d11, l10
     
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  3. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    Unlikely, they're playing the CONCACAF fourth place - probly Panama or the Yanks. Kiwi's are up against the midgets
     
  4. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Will try to split between group and knockout later. I like the request for citation on that article about England's performances at the Euros :D
     
  5. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Wood is the one rubbing his hands then. He won't even need to jump.
     
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  6. S☼I

    S☼I it's my room get out

    Is there any shame in buying an Iceland shirt next summer despite the only connections I have with the place being that I've met several people from Iceland and own some Sigur Ros records?
     
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  7. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    He had a knack for three seasons for scoring against Man City
     
  8. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    Only cos I can't find another thread: Portugal beat the Swiss to win the group and send the Swiss to the playoffs. Swiss are a decent side hadn't dropped any points before last nights game , should be seeded in the playoffs so should get through. Portugal were the better team but their crossing was horrendous and the first goal had a lot of fortune about it. Russia will be the last hurrah for Ronaldo and Pepe. Portugal have a useful young forward in Silva , a hugely gifted midfield but There's some question marks about the defence imo.
     
  9. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    Yanks are out so its Panama
     
  10. The Octagon

    The Octagon Stop...Hammertime

    Bloody Messi, fluking another hat-trick, that Argentina team doesn't deserve him.

    He's going to win them the whole thing despite themselves isn't he?
     
  11. strung out

    strung out (",)

    Panama are already through - it's Honduras
     
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  12. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Yeah, I think we need a general qualifications thread next time - there's been a lot of good stories beyond the UK and ROI teams but not anywhere clear to talk about them.

    Was disappointed for the Swiss - 9/10 games won and they still don't get through automatically! Also just thought it would be quite a story to have a WC without the reigning European, South American and African champions, alongside no Argentina or Netherlands. That said, bit sad Chile didn't make it.
     
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  13. The Octagon

    The Octagon Stop...Hammertime

    Not so easy this qualification lark is it?
     
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  14. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    I finally managed to look into the results further just to satisfy my curiosity.

    The above were the total records in these tournaments (the played in EC is 31 though).

    Since 1966, England have played in 18 finals tournaments - 9 World Cups and 9 European Championships.

    Their total record in this period is:

    WC P42 W18 D14 L10 (43% win ratio)
    EC P31 W10 D11 L10 (32% win ratio)
    Total P73 W28 D25 L20 (38% win ratio)

    Of the 17 first round group stages (the 68 European Championships was just the semi-final and finals), the record is:

    WC P27 W13 D9 L5 (48% win ratio)
    EC P24 W9 D7 L8 (38% win ratio)
    Total P51 W22 D16 L13 (43% win ratio)

    Of these 17 competitions, England have progressed in 12 of them (71%) - 8 World Cups (88%); 4 Euros (50%).

    11 of these 12 went to straight knockout games and, together with the semi-final in 1968, the results are as follows:

    WC P12 W5 D3 L4 (42% win ratio)
    EC P6 W0 D4 L2 :(
    Total P18 W5 D7 L6 (28% win ratio)

    In addition to these, they won a third place game and lost one and drew both games in the 1982 second group stage so the total record excluding first round games is:

    WC P15 W5 D5 L5 (33% win ratio)
    EC P7 W1 D4 L2 (14% win ratio)
    Total P22 W6 D9 L7 (27% win ratio)

    So further to 1927's original post, England have actually only won 5 direct knockout matches since 1966 but also only lost 6 (but obviously been knocked out of all 18 competitions).

    Wales' record is a bit easier to summarize. One qualification in 50 years:

    WC - have not qualified since 1966
    EC - P6 W4 D0 L2 (67% win ratio)
    Knockout stage P3 W2 D0 L1 (67% win ratio)
    Group stage P3 W2 D0 L1 (67% win ratio)

    Will be interesting to see how Wales' stats hold up the next time they qualify for a tournament.
     
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  15. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Friendlies might as well go here.

    Very happy to see Pickford get his first start :cool:

    Abraham and Loftus-Cheek also get debuts, in England's "most inexperienced team in 37 years", with just 101 caps between them.
     
  16. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

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    My glorious run continues :cool: :D
     
  17. Silas Loom

    Silas Loom The people have spoken, the bastards.

    Wouldn’t wish injury on anyone, but I don’t mind seeing Phil Jones pointlessly aggravating a minor niggle to be heroic in a meaningless friendly.
     
  18. The Octagon

    The Octagon Stop...Hammertime

    Decent game this
     
  19. The Octagon

    The Octagon Stop...Hammertime

    Stones is having a very good game thus far, he's read almost everything
     
  20. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Almost nicked it at the death.
     
  21. The Octagon

    The Octagon Stop...Hammertime

    Good performance (although a bit faster thinking with the final ball wouldn't go amiss).

    Loftus-Cheek was great to watch, Pickford staked his claim very well, not too bad at all.

    Could argue Germany didn't hit top gear, but not much we can do about that.
     
  22. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Thought Trippier stood out too bar the odd bad decision.
     
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  23. Silas Loom

    Silas Loom The people have spoken, the bastards.

    Vardy is living off his one dubiously impressive season, though.
     
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  24. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    Somewhat off-topic, but why do England always seem to wear their away kits when playing Germany at home, and vice versa? Last night they were, and most famously did in 1966 and 1996, and the 5-1 match in Munich in 2001 had England in white and Germany in dark green.
     
  25. Silas Loom

    Silas Loom The people have spoken, the bastards.

    This time round it was to make Nike happy, which presumably wasn't the case in 1966.
     
  26. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    As I understand it, in championships (like '66 and '96) teams are randomly assigned home and away, even if they're the host.

    In friendlies, as Silas suggests, it's often a sponsor thing.

    Sometimes it's also about the colours of the respective home/away kits - if the visitors' away kit is too much like the hosts' home kit, sometimes they'll switch it up. There's rules and regulations 'n' stuff.
     
  27. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    No doubt. As both you and Silas suggest, there are also replica kits to flog with Christmas approaching.
     
  28. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Just got in. Looks like I haven't missed much... :hmm:
     
  29. Maggot

    Maggot The Cake of Liberty

    You've missed 3 goals








    In the Ireland game.
     
  30. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Brazil bossing possession but we've been pretty solid at the back.
     

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