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England WC 2018 qualifiers

Discussion in 'football' started by Lord Camomile, Oct 8, 2016.

  1. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    Seeing as you've gone to the effort of compiling this, please can you tell me how many group games have England played and how many knockout games in this period so that we can see the win percentages.

    Many thanks :)

    ETA Split between Euros and WC would be even better given England's poor Euro record :)
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2017
  2. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    The overall stats are here:

    England national football team - Wikipedia

    WC: p62, w26, d20, l16
    EC: p32, w10, d11, l10
     
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  3. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    Unlikely, they're playing the CONCACAF fourth place - probly Panama or the Yanks. Kiwi's are up against the midgets
     
  4. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Will try to split between group and knockout later. I like the request for citation on that article about England's performances at the Euros :D
     
  5. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Wood is the one rubbing his hands then. He won't even need to jump.
     
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  6. S☼I

    S☼I unhailed warden of a fled campestral

    Is there any shame in buying an Iceland shirt next summer despite the only connections I have with the place being that I've met several people from Iceland and own some Sigur Ros records?
     
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  7. The39thStep

    The39thStep Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?

    He had a knack for three seasons for scoring against Man City
     
  8. The39thStep

    The39thStep Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?

    Only cos I can't find another thread: Portugal beat the Swiss to win the group and send the Swiss to the playoffs. Swiss are a decent side hadn't dropped any points before last nights game , should be seeded in the playoffs so should get through. Portugal were the better team but their crossing was horrendous and the first goal had a lot of fortune about it. Russia will be the last hurrah for Ronaldo and Pepe. Portugal have a useful young forward in Silva , a hugely gifted midfield but There's some question marks about the defence imo.
     
  9. The39thStep

    The39thStep Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?

    Yanks are out so its Panama
     
  10. The Octagon

    The Octagon Stop......Hammertime

    Bloody Messi, fluking another hat-trick, that Argentina team doesn't deserve him.

    He's going to win them the whole thing despite themselves isn't he?
     
  11. strung out

    strung out (",)

    Panama are already through - it's Honduras
     
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  12. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Yeah, I think we need a general qualifications thread next time - there's been a lot of good stories beyond the UK and ROI teams but not anywhere clear to talk about them.

    Was disappointed for the Swiss - 9/10 games won and they still don't get through automatically! Also just thought it would be quite a story to have a WC without the reigning European, South American and African champions, alongside no Argentina or Netherlands. That said, bit sad Chile didn't make it.
     
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  13. The Octagon

    The Octagon Stop......Hammertime

    Not so easy this qualification lark is it?
     
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  14. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    I finally managed to look into the results further just to satisfy my curiosity.

    The above were the total records in these tournaments (the played in EC is 31 though).

    Since 1966, England have played in 18 finals tournaments - 9 World Cups and 9 European Championships.

    Their total record in this period is:

    WC P42 W18 D14 L10 (43% win ratio)
    EC P31 W10 D11 L10 (32% win ratio)
    Total P73 W28 D25 L20 (38% win ratio)

    Of the 17 first round group stages (the 68 European Championships was just the semi-final and finals), the record is:

    WC P27 W13 D9 L5 (48% win ratio)
    EC P24 W9 D7 L8 (38% win ratio)
    Total P51 W22 D16 L13 (43% win ratio)

    Of these 17 competitions, England have progressed in 12 of them (71%) - 8 World Cups (88%); 4 Euros (50%).

    11 of these 12 went to straight knockout games and, together with the semi-final in 1968, the results are as follows:

    WC P12 W5 D3 L4 (42% win ratio)
    EC P6 W0 D4 L2 :(
    Total P18 W5 D7 L6 (28% win ratio)

    In addition to these, they won a third place game and lost one and drew both games in the 1982 second group stage so the total record excluding first round games is:

    WC P15 W5 D5 L5 (33% win ratio)
    EC P7 W1 D4 L2 (14% win ratio)
    Total P22 W6 D9 L7 (27% win ratio)

    So further to 1927's original post, England have actually only won 5 direct knockout matches since 1966 but also only lost 6 (but obviously been knocked out of all 18 competitions).

    Wales' record is a bit easier to summarize. One qualification in 50 years:

    WC - have not qualified since 1966
    EC - P6 W4 D0 L2 (67% win ratio)
    Knockout stage P3 W2 D0 L1 (67% win ratio)
    Group stage P3 W2 D0 L1 (67% win ratio)

    Will be interesting to see how Wales' stats hold up the next time they qualify for a tournament.
     
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